1/2in holes!

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  1. Gibbles

    Gibbles Clicker of buttons

    I always heard anything worth putting a hole into, is worth putting a big hole in!

    Local gun store had this XIX brushed chrome Desert Eagle in .50AE for a price i could not pass up.

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  2. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Big gun
     
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  3. rlphvac

    rlphvac reliable source of info

    I've had mine for about a year now and its fun to shoot. Very little recoil but it weighs 9#. Take lots of ammo because everyone wants to shoot it just watch their faces when they do
     
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  4. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

    all those big bore hand guns are fun to plink and hunt with,
    Id like to own one of those 50 cal desert eagle pistols
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    but if I ever had the cash, I think Id have selected a 7.5" or 10" S&W 500 mag, revolver
    Ive used a 10mm semi auto pistol on hunts,I have not a thing against a semi auto, but I will point out,that if you hand load theres more options with a revolver.
    and yes Ive shot the 50 cal desert eagle pistol,
    its accurate and fun to shoot,if its like the one a friend owns,

    but as a personal choice I prefer revolvers.
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    I've had and used a 445 dan wesson and a 44 mag for several decades
    I've tried a 480 ruger and 500 S&W revolver friends own on several hunts!
    the fun thing about hand loading and casting bullets is you can easily custom hand load the ammo,
    to any power level your comfortable using and as you gain skill ,

    you can increase or decrease the bullet weight and velocity of those hand-loads to match your personal requirements.
    this is where Most REVOLVERS really have a good deal more flexibility,
    than a semi auto hand-gun.
    as it takes a narrow power band to maintain reliably function,with a semi auto pistol.
    a semi-auto hand-gun must have, the ammo operate in a specific pressure and recoil range,
    while a revolver is generally far less fussy about the ammo
    pressure, velocity and bullet weights, it digests
    .
    the 500 S&W has more power potential on the upper end of the power scale,
    and yet could be loaded to less than a 44 mag and still function 100% reliably,
    if you hand load, and simply swapping ammo allows you to change power,
    something thats not nearly as easy with the semi-auto.


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    http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=50 AE&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Source=

    http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=500 SqqqW Magnum&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=


    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ing-a-handgun-for-hunting-hogs-deer-elk.1864/


    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ns-power-accuracy-effective-range-cost.13280/
     
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  5. rlphvac

    rlphvac reliable source of info

    Nothing wrong with a big revolver Grumpy but you need to be careful with reduced loads with the DE when I first loaded for it the starting loads from the Hornaday manual wouldn't cycle the slide but would fire OK if you hand cycled it now maybe after the gun is broken in a little they might work. I haven't loaded for it for a while because I ran into a deal for 500 Hornaday factory loads for a hell of a deal
     
  6. rlphvac

    rlphvac reliable source of info

    Nothing wrong with a big revolver Grumpy but you need to be careful with reduced loads with the DE when I first loaded for it the starting loads from the Hornaday manual wouldn't cycle the slide but would fire OK if you hand cycled it now maybe after the gun is broken in a little they might work. I haven't loaded for it for a while because I ran into a deal for 500 Hornaday factory loads for a hell of a deal
     
  7. Gibbles

    Gibbles Clicker of buttons

    Every youtube video i watch says the 500 hurts a little, but the DE is somewhat pleasant to shoot.
    The 500, most seem to complain about the pain in the web of their palm.

    The DE was top on my list, but i still want the 500...
    If next year my local gunstore has a sale like they did this year, then the 500 will be following me home for sure!

    Around here the 500 runs about $900-$1100.
    The DE i bought was already discounted, and then another 30% off bringing it down to about $1200.
    A deal i could not walk away from :D
     
  8. Gibbles

    Gibbles Clicker of buttons

    The 500 i want has the 'dirty harry' barrel profile. ;)
     
  9. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

    yeah, the 7.5" is about the most practical,
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    but the 10" has some real advantages for hunting.
    keep in mind most hand gun hunts are conducted at ranges under 100 yards.
    a 44mag ,454 casull, 480 ruger,or 460 S&W or 500S&W have enough power to kill almost any big game with a properly selected gas check hard cast bullet,
    as a properly designed hard cast projectile,
    with shoot as accurately as most hunting rifles inside its designed range,
    and easily shoot completely through a deer or elks chest and exit.

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    http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=500 SqqqW Magnum&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...do-i-need-here-for-a-500-s-w-reloading.11917/

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ing-a-handgun-for-hunting-hogs-deer-elk.1864/

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ns-power-accuracy-effective-range-cost.13280/
     
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  10. Gibbles

    Gibbles Clicker of buttons

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  11. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

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    Considering most self defensive confrontations are at under 20 yards and fewer than 4 shots are fired,
    according to FBI data, I always thought that the 3.5" barrel 500 revolver,
    with reduced velocity loads, lets say a 320-350 grain semi wad-cutter
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    at about 900 fps would be a rather interesting self defensive tool.
    too large and heavy to be practical,
    but it should darn sure get an aggressors attention,
    and change is anti social intentions,if it hits center mass,
    without posing excessive penetration or recoil,
    for an experienced, large bore magnum, pistol shot, that puts it in the same energy level,
    as many 10mm loads but with a much larger diameter and heavier projectile moving slower.
     
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  12. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

    I went to a local pistol range this past week , I was rather amused by watching some guy who obviously was less than skilled trying so shoot a buddies 500 S&W revolver.
    I have zero desire to see anyone not enjoy hunting and shooting and I just have a very hard time understanding the reluctance too learn the basics of hand loading.
    remember you can rather easily custom load revolver ammo to any power level, and if you find factory ammo abusive,
    its a simple change too carefully reduce either the bullet weight and/or powder charges, being used significantly.
    a semi-auto pistol requires a minimum pressure and recoil level to function,, not so a revolver
     
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  13. Gibbles

    Gibbles Clicker of buttons

    I think with the 500 i would need to load it down a little for sure.

    And i finally had a chance to shoot that desert eagle!
    I have to say I'm surprised how pleasant it was to shoot.
    Everything turns orange for a split second when the trigger is pulled, but the recoil is very comfortable!

    After a few shots i did start flinching a little, but as long as i thought of something else like sunsets, i could keep on target.

    It also ran like a top, 0 failures with the hornady ammo i was running. :cool:

    It will take some practice with the thing, but i think i can get pretty consistent with it.
    I need to pick up some loading dies later, but at $1.50 a shot it's not too bad when i compare to the $1.00 a shot with my .308.

    It also put a smile on everyones face that wanted to give it a go. :D
     
  14. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Perfect way to shut up the Demos.

    A 500 DE !
     
  15. Gibbles

    Gibbles Clicker of buttons

    That would be a sight!

    Maybe a 500 auto (rimless cartridge)!

    The size of the grip might be an issue, the desert eagle grip is large, but i don't have an issue getting a proper grip.
    My hands are also not large, usually a medium sized glove fits me perfectly.

    And while i was out with the group others brought some "portable" steel targets with them.

    That got me thinking and i ended up picking an ar500 3/8in thick for about $44 shipped.
    It's a folding target that's self standing, and bolts together flat and includes a carry handle built in.
    The seller sait it will handle the desert eagle, but did suggest the 1/2in thick model as a better alternative...

    The stand also has some slots cut into it for some 3/4in pipe for legs.

    It's small, but a good starting point!
    It came unfinished, but one of my tasks for today is to remove all of the sharp edges, and coat it with something that will prevent long term rust, and to make it more visible...
     
  16. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Like a Race Car put on the Street.
    FUN.
    But not always practical.
     
  17. rlphvac

    rlphvac reliable source of info

    Yes but the fun part over rides the practical part
     
  18. rlphvac

    rlphvac reliable source of info

    Gibbles watch reloading for this my starting loads would not cycle the slide until about mid loads from the Hornaday book with Accurate #9 powder. Now this was also fired in a new unfired tight gun I may re try the loads after some rounds are run through it
     
  19. rlphvac

    rlphvac reliable source of info

    Just picked up a new Hornaday ammo plant progressive press so let the fun begin
     
  20. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

  21. rlphvac

    rlphvac reliable source of info

    Yes I didn't buy the bullet & case feeder yet. I want to get everything set up first & try it out and if I really can get 400 - 500 rounds an hour loaded I don't think that I will need it
     

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