489 BBC & low power

Grumpy

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Hello everyone. It's good to be back on a performance forum again. Over the course of last winter, I built a 489 with a 177 weiand blower. I used an Eagle forged crank, H beam rods, SRP flat tops, 781 heads with 2.19-1.88 valves and a mild port job and bowl blend, c/r is 8.4-1, Lunati hyd roller 211-219@.050 112 lsa .550-.550, 1 7/8 Hooker Super Comps with 3" exhaust and x pipe. Holley 850dp with annular boosters. I tried a 750 dp with downlegs, but the 850 definately made more power through the whole range. I also installed a DUI dizzy with 36 deg's total. The engine is in a fairly heavy truck (1989 gmc v3500 crew cab dually with 4wd. It just feels to me like this thing is nowhere in it's potential.I had the chance to chassis dyno the truck and it put out disapointing #'s. 362 hp @4800 and 434 tq @ 3700. We tried a 1500 rpm pull to see the torque down low, but she spun the tires and couldn't get a reading. I know there are some losses through the th400, np205, 2 piece driveshaft and dana 70, but I had hoped to be better off than this. I have tuned and tweeked everything that I can think of to get more out of this thing. Any and all suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

when any problem with any engine shows up its best to leave the assumptions behind and deal in proven facts, this will require the ISOLATE AND TEST, procedure.
Obviously the first step is to verify the basics like verifying the ignition timing curve, verify the cam timing, verify the rocker adjustment and verify the cams not excessively worn, and doing a compression test.
now in my opinion the reason is rather obvious, but do the testing to prove it to yourself,ID next test the exhaust back pressure to verify that a restrictive exhaust system is not strangling the engines potential, yes it certainly sounds like the exhaust is fine, but it certainly helps to verify and not too assume, it is!. the exhaust back pressure should be below 3 psi at all times, ideally well below that.
any supercharged engine combo will require a totally different ignition advance curve and generally a richer fuel/air ratio to run correctly compared to a N/A engine , you may need to RETARD the ignition advance as boost pressure increases.
keep in mind the whole idea of supercharging an engine is related too effectively packing the cylinders with an increased volume of effectively mixed fuel/air ratio combustible and pressurized outside air.
the only way youll do that with a roots style supercharger, is to mechanically force a greater volume of outside air into those cylinders that you would see in a N/A engine, that 177 roots style supercharger is designed to compress approximately 177 cubic inches of air per revolution.
that means it will need to spin about 2.75 revolutions to compress the 489 engines displacement volume.
I think youll find if you test the manifold/plenum boost curve that at lower rpms your boost is helping build torque but by about 4500 rpm-5000 rpm your supercharger boost, and that cams limited duration are in combination, leveling off or dropping the effective cylinder fill volume as engine demand outstrips the superchargers ability to provide ever more pressurized fuel/air volume.
and in my opinion, theres no way that a 177 size supercharger and a mild 211/219 cam timing can not be expected to keep up with the the max potential demands for increased air consumption, of a 489 cubic inch engine once your rpms start to increase past about 4500 rpm, its sure sounds like that engines simply running out of cam duration and boost, the valves must remain open long enough for the cylinders to fill AND the supercharger to boost cylinder pressure above outside air pressure, and even on a non-supercharged 489 BBC that 211 duration would be restrictive past about 4500 rpm.
under camming an engine is fairly rare but this is a good example!
Id bet if you check the boost pressure in the plenum under the supercharger and graph it out vs rpm youll see what I mean.
while the current engine should make impressive lower rpm torque, it not going to reach its full power potential that could make with a longer duration cam and larger capacity super charger.
if your looking to get that engine to put out near its potential , you would want to install a cam with more duration, (at least something like this,
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and if that alone does not help enough,something like a 671-871 supercharger with two carbs on the induction side and for sure a low restriction exhaust would be helpful.
and one more indication is that when you lowered the restriction to flow with a larger carb, you felt the increase immediately.
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Thanks for the replies. I had originaly tried a howards roller cam with 225-231 @.050 and while full throttle felt okay, part throttle was weak. Like I said, the truck is in the 7000lbs range and sometimes pulls my 11,500 lbs camper. It's more part throttle grunt that I'm after. The Lunati that is currently in the truck greatly helped part throttle torque and didn't seem to kill off any power up to 5000rpm. It just seems to me it could be more brutal when looking at the weak dyno#'s. How would you test the exhaust for restriction?



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much better match to a 496 BBC
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The numbers related to these blower sizes, such as 142, 177, and 256, relate to the amount of air in cubic inches that is pumped by the blower in one blower revolution. The 6-71 and 8-71 designations refer to the original GMC diesel engines. Table 2 shows the amount of air per blower revolution the Weiand blowers pump.

TABLE 2: Supercharger Volumes
Supercharger Type Approximate CID or
Air Per Revolution

Pro-Street 142 142
Pro-Street 177 177
Pro-Street 256 256
Weiand 6-71 411
Weiand 8-71 436
Weiand 10-71 469
Weiand 12-71 497
Weiand 14-71 522
In selecting the proper supercharger for your application, you also need to take into consideration how you plan to drive your vehicle and the approximate boost level desired. How you plan to drive your vehicle is important because you can set up your blower to be more efficient at high engine speeds or more efficient at low engine speeds, or you can arrange for the best compromise for the full engine rpm range.
To run boost levels from 6 to 10 pounds we recommend the following:
Forged blower pistons with a static compression ratio of 7.5:1
  • Steel crankshaft
  • Four bolt main caps
  • Steel harmonic dampener
  • Stainless steel valves
  • Three angle valve job
  • More aggressive camshaft
  • Roller rockers
  • Ported and polished heads
  • Steel rods with good rod bolts
  • Chromoly push rods
  • High output ignition
  • Weiand high flow water pump (cast iron or aluminum available - see our complete water pump section for applications)
  • Minimum of a 2-1/2" diameter dual exhaust with headers. Recommended primary tube diameters and collector sizes are:
  • Small Blocks: 1-5/8" to 1-3/4" with 3" collectors
  • Big Blocks: 1-7/8" to 2' with 3-1/2" collectors
For maximum boost and horsepower applications (12 pounds or more), we recommend the following engine specifications:
  • High quality forged or billet crankshaft
  • Four bolt main caps with quality bolts or studs
  • Steel harmonic balancer or crank hub
  • High quality steel rods (H or I beam)
  • Forged blower pistons
  • O-ringing the block (mandatory)
  • Severe duty stainless steel valves or iconel
  • Fully ported and polished heads
  • Solid or roller cam designed for high boost
  • Roller rockers
  • Chromoly push rods
  • High output ignition management system or magneto
  • Blueprinted carburetors or fuel injection
  • High octane race fuel (112+ rating)
  • Minimum of a 3" diameter dual exhaust with free flowing street/race mufflers and large tube headers.
  • Recommended primary tube diameters and collector sizes are:
  • Small Blocks: 1-7/8" to 2" with 3-1/2" collectors Big Blocks: 2-1/8" to 2-1/4", with 4" collectors
  • Maximum effective compression ratio on gas not to exceed 24:1
  • It's important to realize that there are no hard and fast rules and the suggestions made here are general in nature.
an even better option in my opinion , requiring less hood clearance, would be a centrifugal supercharger with inter-cooler ( inter-cooler not shown in this picture) and a throttle body and direct port injection is also an option.
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Supercharger Volumes
Supercharger Type Approximate CID or
Air Per Revolution

Pro-Street 142 142
Pro-Street 177 177
Pro-Street 256 256
Weiand 6-71 411
Weiand 8-71 436
Weiand 10-71 469
Weiand 12-71 497
Weiand 14-71 522

a 177 supercharger will need to spin at 2.76 times the engine rpm just to maintain significant boost on a 489 displacement engine and a roots style supercharger losses significant efficiency after 6000 rpm,and higher , so by 3000 rpm on your engine your already in trouble with volumetric efficiency



your lack of part throttle response with the larger cam, is a second indication that the small super charger is NOT effectively providing the required volume of air mass or BOOST pressure required to provide the engine with the cylinder pressure at lower rpms.
ID also suggest checking the exhaust FUEL/AIR ratio, youll ideally want to see near a 12.7:1 fuel air ratio.
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(Supercharger) Size Matters
If you’re opting for a Roots-style supercharger, such as the ones offered by Weiand, size does matter. According to Weiand, you typically want to run larger blowers on larger engines. Assuming a constant speed ratio between the engine and the blower, a larger blower will make more boost than a smaller one on the same size engine. As engine size goes up, the supercharger will begin to make less boost; therefore, it’s ideal to use a larger blower on larger cubic-inch engines.

Keep in mind, you can make boost adjustments by running larger or smaller drive pulley sizes. You can use smaller pulleys (overdrive) to run a blower faster for more boost; you can add larger pulleys (underdrive) to run the blower more slowly for less boost. Using the popular 6-71 supercharger, the chart below shows you how pulley size can effect the boost pressure of a given blower:


Chart courtesy of Weiand.

It is perfectly fine to run a larger blower on a small engine as long as you use the proper underdrive pulleys to create safe boost levels. However, it is not practical to run a small, overdriven supercharger on a large engine, because you would have to run the blower very fast to create a reasonable amount of boost. At some point, the blower would become inefficient and could actually heat up the air, causing loss of boost.

Bottom line: larger blowers are for larger engines.

Boost Ranges & Variables
When shopping for a supercharger, you’ll notice boost levels are noted in ranges—as in 6 to 8 psi. This is because there are outside factors, including carburetor size, camshaft profile, and valve size, that can cause boost to vary. For example, at full throttle, your engine is going to need about 50 percent more air than it did before the blower was installed. If your carburetor is incapable of flowing the necessary airflow, you will have lower boost.

Boost readings are typically observed or measured at the intake manifold. If your engine has restricted cylinder head ports, small valves, or a non-performance camshaft, you will actually see artificially high boost readings in the higher-rpm range. This is because the boost pressure can’t get into the engine cylinders efficiently and begins to build up within the intake manifold. Although you’re observing high boost levels, the actual amount of boost pressure reaching your engine is lower and your engine’s power gains have maxed out. Conversely, lower readings on your boost gauge can mean your supercharger is making more power.

In part three of our Blower Basics series, we’ll talk about engine and ignition upgrades that can maximize the performance of your supercharger. We’ll also share some recommended modifications for running higher boost levels—all courtesy of our friends from Weiand.

while I'm sure the truck performs reasonably well,
you posted the rear wheel dyno results
362 hp @4800 and 434 tq @ 3700.
thats not a power level that could not rather easily be matched with a non-supercharged 489 BBC
you can reasonably assume the engines flywheel numbers were close to [color:red]452 tq/540hp[/color]

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KEEP IN MIND THIS ENGINE BELOW HAS A MUCH LARGER CAM THAT ALLOWS THE ENGINE TO BREATH FAR BETTER THAT THE ENGINE ABOVE
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When it comes to forced induction, perhaps the best thing about owning a supercharged Chevy is the ability to literally dial in the desired amount of horsepower. If the motor is assembled properly using the right performance components, it is possible to adjust the boost pressure to achieve the desired output.

To illustrate the power gains offered by supercharging in general and then by pulley changes in particular, we decided to build a supercharged stroker and subject it to the rigors of the dyno. What follows is the build up of the dedicated big-block Chevy street stroker, along with the effects of adding a supercharger. After installing the Holley 420 Mega Blower, we took it upon ourselves to adjust the boost pressure by altering the blower drive ratio (via pulley changes).






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The 489 stroker short block supplied by Coast High Performance included a 4.25-inch stroker crank, forged rods and pistons.

After it was all said and done, we increased the power output of our already impressive normally aspirated stroker motor by a whopping 223 hp. What enthusiast wouldn't want an extra 223 hp?


The Holley/Weiand Roots blowers offer more than visual horsepower, as instantaneous boost provides immediate response and a wave of torque. The immediate boost response and impressive low-speed torque is one reason the Roots blowers continue to be so popular. When it comes to getting that big Chevelle, Camaro or even Impala moving in a big hurry, there is nothing like the feeling of a blown big-block. Taking the more-is-better route one step further, we decided that the only thing better than a big-block is an even bigger big-block. Combining additional cubic inches and forced induction can elevate your powerplant right to the top of the proverbial performance food chain.

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Canfield supplied a set of 310cc aluminum heads. The head featured 120cc CNC combustion chambers that helped produce a static compression ratio of 8.25:1.

Our test subject started out life as a 461 big-block. The 461 was originally equipped with a set of ported 049 oval-port heads, an emissions-legal Crane cam (203/212 duration) and an Edelbrock Performer 2-O intake. So equipped, the 461 produced 432 hp and 542 lb-ft of torque. For our needs, the 461 had two strikes against it in terms of performance as an optimum blower plant, namely the displacement and static compression. The displacement was too low while the compression was too high. Though the 461 offered decent low-speed torque production, our plan of attack was to build an even more impressive combination capable of bettering both the normally aspirated horsepower and torque production of the 461 while simultaneously allowing the combination to run effectively and effortlessly with our Holley 420 Mega Blower.

Given its mild state of tune, bettering the power output of the original 461 was not particularly difficult, as all we had to do was improve the efficiency of a few key components, namely the cylinder heads, cam and intake manifold. While adding free-flowing heads, a wilder cam and a high-rise intake manifold would surely improve the peak horsepower number, we also wanted to improve the torque peak-without sacrificing the impressive low-speed power already present.

Making life even more difficult was the fact that we had to achieve all this while dropping the compression down near 8.25:1 in preparation for boost. The game plan chosen was to combine the required low compression with an increase in displacement and efficiency. The additional cubic inches came from a stroker crank offered by Coast High Performance. The stock 4.0-inch (454) crank was ditched in favor of a cast 4.25-inch crank. Completing the stroker assembly was a set of forged I-beam rods and Probe Racing pistons. The forged pistons featured a single intake valve relief, as there is generally plenty of piston to (exhaust) valve clearance. The 4.25-inch crank was combined with the .030-over pistons to create a final displacement of 489 cubic inches.

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The 420 Mega Blower was equipped with a pair of blower-specific 750 Holley carbs and dual-carb linkage.

We made full use of the valve relief in the Probe Racing forged pistons by replacing the wimpy hydraulic flat-tappet cam run previously in the 461 with a custom hydraulic roller cam. Comp Cams supplied the Xtreme Energy hydraulic roller profile, which offered a 236/242 duration split at .050 along with over .600 lift. The intake featured a tad more lift, checking in at .646, while the exhaust was down only slightly to .623. The cam featured a wide 114 lobe separation angle, helping produce a broad power band and minimizing overlap. The custom Comp hydraulic roller cam was run with a set of Comp hydraulic roller lifters, hardened pushrods and a double roller timing chain.

The use of the hydraulic roller cam required a cam button to control the cam movement. Unlike hydraulic flat-tappet cams, roller profiles do not have angled lobes to keep the cam from walking forward. It was necessary to set the cam button lash using the shims provided in the two-piece timing cover kit. The two-piece aluminum timing cover made the necessary adjustments to the cam button much easier, not to mention kicking the cool factor up a couple of notches.

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On the dyno, the blown 489 pumped out 728 hp and 690 lb-ft of torque at just 4.3 psi of boost.

With more cam and cubes, we turned our attention to the cylinder heads. Though we had good luck with the factory 049 heads (ported by Joel Marsh of Competition Heads in Fullerton, California), we knew the aftermarket had much to offer in the way of performance headgear. We contacted Canfield cylinder heads, and they shipped out a set of their 310cc aluminum heads. Right away the Canfield heads were a step up from the 049 heads, as the aluminum heads offered a dramatic weight savings (ever had to lug a set of big-block Chevy iron heads?) along with a reduction in detonation potential thanks to the superior heat dissipation of aluminum.

The final improvement involved the flow rate of the Canfield heads. Though we installed the heads out-of-the-box with no porting, the Canfield 310s easily out-flowed the ported 049 heads, by as much as 40-50 cfm per runner. The Canfield heads were equipped with a 2.25/1.88 stainless steel valve combination and treated to a performance three-angle valve job. The headwork was performed by Dougan's Machine shop in Mira Loma, California. The Canfield heads were completed with dual valve springs, retainers and spring seats, all from the Comp Cams catalog.

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Each pulley combination was run on the dyno, with predictable results. As we increased blower speed, we were rewarded with additional boost pressure and an increase in power and torque.

The only thing missing from the 489 stroker long-block was an intake, carb and ignition. We installed 2-inch Hooker Super Comp headers (for a Chevelle chassis) used previously for dyno testing, but the Canfield heads were topped with an Edelbrock Performer RPM Air Gap intake. We chose the dual-plane intake for its superior torque production. Sure, the racy single-plane Victor Jr. or Super Victor will make more peak power, but we were interested in having a broad torque curve capable of offering impressive acceleration and even improved fuel consumption over a single plane. For street use, nothing beats a dual-plane intake for maximizing torque production.

The Air Gap intake was topped off with a Holley 950 HP carburetor to ensure plenty of air and fuel for our thirsty stroker. Additional mods included a TCI Rattler balancer (external 454 balance), an MSD billet distributor (and wires) and a set of 1.7-ratio roller rockers. The motor was run on the dyno with the Hooker headers feeding a 3.5-inch exhaust equipped with mufflers.

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After running the 489 in normally aspirated form, we yanked the RPM Air Gap and 950 HP carb and installed the Mega Blower lower intake. Note the short runners in the lower manifold.

After filling the pan with Lucas oil and a proper break in procedure, we were initially rewarded with 545 hp and 571 lb-ft of torque. After playing with the ignition timing, the carb jetting and finally installing a 1-inch carb spacer, we managed to coax 577 hp and 592 lb-ft of torque out of the normally aspirated 489 stroker. Even more impressive was the fact that the power came on Union 76 unleaded pump gas, thanks to a compression ratio of just 8.25:1.

Satisfied with the results of our normally aspirated 489, we quickly got to work and yanked the Performer RPM Air Gap intake and 950 HP carb and replaced them with the 420 Mega Blower and dual 750 (blower specific) Holley carbs. We reduced the ignition timing from 35 to 31 and proceeded to make some serious power-after all, the low-compression stroker was built with supercharging in mind.

Not surprisingly, adding the Holley 420 Mega Blower made a dramatic difference in the power output of the 489. Running a 56-tooth blower pulley and a 50-tooth crank pulley produced a blower drive ratio of roughly 11 percent under-driven (meaning the blower was spinning only 89 percent of the engine speed). The result of the 11 percent under-driven Mega Blower was an increase in peak power from 577 hp to 728 hp. The drive ratio produced a peak boost pressure of just 4.3 psi, with most of the run registering under 4 psi.

It is important to note that adding the supercharger changed where the stroker made peak power. We decided to limit the engine speed to just 6100 rpm for our testing, but we noticed that the power curve was still climbing. In normally aspirated form, the 489 made peak power between 5600 and 5800 rpm, and then began to fall off thereafter. Installing the 420 Mega Blower system included replacing the dual-plane Performer RPM Air Gap intake with a dedicated blower intake.

The Mega Blower lower intake offered much shorter runners than the Edelbrock piece, along with a common plenum similar to a single-plane intake, something that changed the effective operating rpm. The short runners allowed the engine to continue to produce power all the way to 6500 rpm, where the 489 eventually experienced valve float. While we continued to produce more power with engine speeds beyond 6000 rpm, we decided to purposely limit the tests to just 6100 rpm (with the exception of the one experimental run).

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After running the Mega Blower with a 56-tooth blower pulley and a 50-tooth crank pulley, we decided to try a few more pulley combinations.

With the "more is better" principle ringing loud in our heads, we proceeded to pull the 50-tooth crank pulley and replace it with a slightly larger 52-tooth pulley. Changing the pulley was easy, taking all of two to three minutes.

The 52-tooth pulley increased the drive ratio to 7 percent under (blower spinning 93 percent of engine), and the boost climbed to a peak of 4.9 psi. As with the previous 50-tooth run, the boost pressure was lower than the peak (roughly 4.3 psi) for most of the run. Increasing the peak boost pressure by .6 psi resulted in a gain of 30 hp, bumping the peak from 728 hp to 759 hp. Peak torque was up as well, from 690 lb-ft to 712 lb-ft.

After our success, we continued by installing a 54-tooth crank pulley, which upped the peak boost pressure to 5.7 psi. The .8 psi gain in boost pressure added 13 hp, bringing the total to 772 hp, while the torque jumped to 731 lb-ft.

The final run involved the installation of a 57-tooth crank pulley, pushing the drive ratio over 100 percent for the first time. The 102 percent overdriven Mega Blower pumped out a maximum of 7.0 psi, and with it produced 797 hp and 745 lb-ft of torque. Running 7 psi, our 489 stroker was now pumping out nearly 800 hp and 750 lb-ft of torque.


In normally aspirated trim, the 489 produced 577 hp and 592 lb-ft of torque. Adding the Holley 420 Mega Blower (roughly equivalent to a traditional 6-71) and a pair of 750 blower carbs, we upped the power output to 728 hp, while torque jumped to 690 lb-ft. The impressive part is that all of this was accomplished at a hair over 4 psi.

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One of the best things about owning a supercharged motor is the ability to literally adjust the power output at will. Of course there are limits to just how far you can go with increasing the boost pressure, but as is evident by the four distinct power (and attending torque) curves, reasonable boost levels can result in dramatic power gains. The gains in boost pressure were accomplished by altering the drive ratio of the supercharger relative to engine speed. Basically we changed the size of the crank pulley to increase the boost pressure.

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Starting with the smallest 50-tooth pulley, the 489 produced 728 hp and 690 lb-ft of torque at a peak boost reading of 4.3 psi. Installing a slightly larger 52-tooth crank pulley increased the peak boost pressure to 4.9 psi and upped the power peak to 759 hp, while the torque jumped to 712 lb-ft. The next crank pulley to be installed was a larger 54-tooth, bringing the drive ratio to 4 percent under driven. The result was an increase in peak power to 772 hp, while the torque was up to 731 lb-ft. The peak boost registered with the 54-tooth crank pulley was 5.7 psi.

The final 57-tooth pulley tested (102 percent overdriven) produced 7.0 psi, 797 hp and 745 lb-ft of torque. Note that the third pulley combination (56/54) was run beyond 6100 rpm and the power kept climbing right to 6400 rpm. Had we elected to run the 57-tooth crank pulley to the same engine speed, we would have easily exceeded 800 hp, but that was not the intent of the pulley test. This 420 Mega Blower was possibly capable of as much as 1,000 hp, but our 2-bolt block and cast stroker crank were probably not, at least not for long.
 
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OK, LS engines are arguably one of the best, if not the best, engines ever fielded by GM, or anyone for that matter. But sometimes they just feel a bit sterile and “soulless.” Maybe what you need is something a bit more retro, and nothing says, “old-school performance,” like a supercharged big-block. We’re not talking one of those fancy centrifugal blowers either, but a good old roots-style huffer. Knowing you want a big-block with a blower sitting majestically on top is only half the battle. You also need to make sure you properly size the supercharger to your mill. This is where hot rodders often make mistakes. Most people think in terms of boost and don’t consider how much atmosphere the unit is capable of moving. It also happens that when they see a blower that’s advertised as providing an X percent increase in power, they just assume it will translate to their engine. Maybe it will, maybe it won’t. Keep in mind that when a manufacturer states that a blower will give a certain power increase, the amount is based on a specific engine combination and doesn’t apply to a variety of engines. A small blower may give you that 40 percent boost in power on your nearly stock 396, but it just won’t move enough volume to give you the hoped-for results on a built 454 or 502. It’s akin to the law of diminishing returns. The bigger the engine, the smaller (percentage wise) the gain will be at a given boost level; at least until you step up to a bigger blower. At that point the cycle repeats. So the small 177 Weiand might be just the ticket for your 396, while that 454 or 502 might be better served by a 6-71, and even larger engines might require a monstrous 8-71 supercharger. Also, you might be better off running a larger blower and spinning it slower since this generates less heat. So, an underdriven 8-71 will most likely make more power than an overdriven 6-71. Try and follow this rule of thumb: A larger volume blower will typically make more power than a smaller volume unit at the same boost level.

To put this theory to the test we built up a Dart 454 big-block, grabbed a couple of Weiand blowers, and headed over to Westech Performance in Mira Loma, California, for some dyno time on their Superflow 902.


01 As shipped, Dart blocks (PN 31263644, $2,544) are pretty clean, but they do require some TLC. JR Twedt, owner of JR Competition Engines in Escondido, California, explained, “We deburred all the casting flash, which can eventually chip away, causing heat and stress risers.” Extra-thick siamesed cylinder walls resist cracking and have improved ring seal, scalloped outer water jacket walls help improve coolant flow, stronger steel caps incorporate splayed outer bolts, and improved lifter valley head bosses are just a few of the refinements. Other items, like true “priority main” oiling and a crank tunnel pre-clearanced for big strokes just make life easier.

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02 The rotating assembly came as a kit, so our first step was to mate the Engine Pro H-beam forged rods (6.135-inch) with the KB pistons. With that done, JR custom-fitted the Hastings rings.

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03 After wiping down the cylinder walls with a light coat of oil, JR went about stabbing the rod/piston assemblies into the Dart block. Since we will be running boost on this engine, our targeted compression ratio was 9.0:1.

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04 We then installed and secured the Eagle 4340 forged crank. The Dart block came with high-grade main cap bolts, which saved us a few bucks.

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05 Now, if all we cared about was wowing you with big dyno numbers, we could have tossed in an insanely rowdy camshaft that would be a true pain to live with on the street, but we live in the real world where idle characteristics are nearly as important as how much peak power an engine puts out. To that end, we selected a hydraulic roller camshaft from COMP that offers a good balance between power and street manners. Duration numbers (at 0.50) came in at 236/244 with lift of 0.646-inch on a 110 LSA (PN 11-000-8, $297).

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06 A broken timing chain can wreak havoc on an engine’s valvetrain, so we bought this double-roller COMP chain and gear set (PN 7110, $104). It features billet steel sprockets and a nine-keyway crank sprocket for 2-degree incremental adjustability. It’s pre-stretched, heat-treated, and includes the Torrington roller thrust bearing. What’s not to love?

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07 Billet front covers look great, but there’s more to them than just looks. Even with a thrust button, a stock stamped-steel front cover can flex under pressure, causing erratic ignition timing. This COMP two-piece billet aluminum cover (PN 212, $250) is super rigid and will hold our cam in place where it belongs. It also made endplay adjustment a snap due to its handy access hole. For racers, the two-piece design makes cam swaps that much easier. And just like that, our short block was done and lookin’ good in its Chevy Orange paint.

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08 The fully assembled 308cc Dart Iron Eagle heads (PN 15100112, $890 each) feature big 2.250-inch intake and 1.880-inch exhaust valves along with thick port walls and enlarged water passages. JR did a mild amount of porting to the cross-section and short turn radius. The key was to do just enough to improve flow and cylinder fill, but not slow down the airspeed at low- to mid-lift point.

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09 Adjusting a solid roller setup is a pain, which is why we went hydraulic. Key players in our valvetrain are these COMP High Energy hydraulic roller lifters (PN 854S-16, $531). They have a vertical bar and are perfect for dropping into blocks designed for flat tappets. JR also checked piston-to-valve clearance, and there was plenty. Again, reliability is in the details.

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10 The heads were then secured using an ARP bolt kit (PN 135-3603, $108) and sealed with a Fel-Pro PermaTorque MLS gasket (PN 1071, $80 each).

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11 Rounding out our roller valvetrain were these investment-cast 8650 chromoly 1.7 ratio Ultra Pro Magnum rockers from COMP (PN 1620-16, $335). The arched, web-like design delivers an almost 29 percent increase in strength of rigidity, while coming in with a lower moment of inertia. In English, this means they weigh less yet won’t distort at high rpm. They also feature oversized trunnions and needle bearings suited to high-load valvesprings.

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12 A sketchy oiling system can quickly kill even the best built engine. To keep the juices flowing, we picked up this high-volume pump from Moroso (PN 22185, $112). This pump is designed for an 8-inch deep pan and the pickup is fully welded in place. The other big player in our rock-solid oiling system was a fully baffled 6-quart Moroso pan (PN 20403, $263). It featured a kicked-out sump for improved oil control and an integrated windage tray. We bolted it in place using a Fel-Pro gasket set (PN 1884R, $33) and stainless fasteners from our ARP accessory bolt kit (PN 535-9601, $146).

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13 Just for giggles we wanted to see what the 454 would make with only a carb, so we grabbed a 950-cfm unit off the shelf along with a Weiand single-plane intake manifold. Given the low compression, we knew the power numbers wouldn’t be stellar, but we wanted some sort of baseline.

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14 To be honest, these numbers were better than we expected. The 454 made tons of low-end torque and over 500 hp at 5,800 rpm. Better numbers than a ZZ502 GM crate engine.

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15 OK, so the point here is to make some boosted power, but keep in mind that all blowers are not the same. For a budget-minded person, or one without hood clearance, one of the mini-blowers on the market might be just the ticket. This unit we are testing is a Weiand 177 Pro Street roots-style supercharger (PN 6530-1, $2,400).

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16 Now, the 177 supercharger is advertised as giving 25 to 40 percent more power, but keep in mind that’s typically on a milder engine. The more built or bigger inch the engine, the less “bang for the buck” it’s going to yield. With a carb, our 454 put out 504 hp, so a 25 percent increase would be around 125 hp. Well, as you can see it only picked up 52 hp, which is around a 10 percent gain. The reason is that the small blower couldn’t move enough air to feed the built 454. Typically, these small-displacement blowers are better suited to milder 396 and 427 engines where they can deliver the stated gains. What’s the moral of the story? Buy a blower that’s properly sized to your engine and power goals.

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17 For a built engine you need to stuff in more air, and for this we went with a Weiand 6-71 series supercharger (PN 7483, $3,000). Now, the kit costs $600 more than the 177 blower, but it will be capable of stuffing enough atmosphere into our 454 to justify the cost. The other added expense is that it requires two supercharger-tuned Holley carbs (PN 0-80573S, $586 each) and a linkage kit (PN 7167, $200) to make it all work.

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18 So what does that extra cash get you besides a killer looking blower poking through your hood? Well, at a very conservative boost level on 91-octane pump gas, the horsepower number rocketed up to 691 ponies. That’s 187 hp over what it made with the carb, and 125 more than our maxed-out 177 Weiand blower.

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19 The other big advantage to this 6-71 Wieand is potential. Want more power? Simply toss on an overdrive pulley and get ready to rock. But keep in mind, a smaller pulley will only get you so far since the blower will eventually max out on its ability to move air. At that point you would need to move to a larger unit.

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20 A few more pounds of overdriven boost and some 100-octane Rocket race gas netted us 782 hp at 6,500 rpm! That’s 278 more horsepower than the carbureted pull and 91 hp more than the 6-71, pump-gas pull. This flexibility is perfect for the guy who wants to cruise around town then swap some pulleys and hit the dragstrip on the weekend.

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21 And here’s a good way to look at the four tests we did (carbureted, 177 blower, underdriven 6-71, and overdriven 6-71). As you can see, the properly sized blower brings a lot more fun to the table for not a ton more cash.

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