502 BBC burning a bit of oil.

Grumpy

The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer.
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Gm says my new 502HO is useing oil at the rate of 1 qt every 500 to 600 miles is because on a few of these motors the rocker arm studs didn't get sealed. Is that even possible? I have about 7000 mi on the motor,no signs of an oil leak anywhere, all plugs look good with no signs of oil and it runs Great.


A phone call to the GM Regional Maintenance Representative might be in order. the service order writer at many dealerships will hope they can brush this off as it will cost them time and money to fix and not make them a profit. and even if the oil is leaking through the threads on those rocker arm studs, a dealership mechanic could simply, cure that problem by temporarily removing the rocker studs, carefully cleaning and degreasing the studs and threads in the heads and coating them with a decent thread sealant then re-installing them and re-adjusting the valves would clear that issue up.
obviously doing a leak-down test to asses the piston rings seal too the bore walls would be a logical test you might think about doing to get more data you can use, as would pulling the valve spring retainers and replacing the valve seals on all 16 valves and checking the valve stem to valve guide clearances.
Id suspect the valve seals might be defective or need to be replaced or they were never installed on a couple valves , or the rings never properly sealed to the bore walls, or a pvc valves defective or improperly hooked up, Id also put the car up on a lift and look at the valve cover and oil pan gaskets.
many 502 BBC engines used low tension rings to reduce rotating drag, and low tension oil rings do allow a bit more oil to flow past the rings so oil usage does tend to be a bit higher
Id also suggest an oil change and your use of a good 10w30 weight oil to help the rings seal to the bore walls,
this may be a good place too point out WHY you may want to use a DART AFTERMARKET BLOCK, a 502 O.E.M. block has significantly thinner bore walls as the casting is noticeably thinner than the DART block, and I'd point out that, G.M. uses low tension rings to reduce drag, in the engine too improve mileage, but low tension rings also allow slightly higher oil consumption, so its not at all un-usual for a G.M. 454-502 to use about a quart of oil every 500-700 miles , so youll generally want to check your oil level every time you fill the gas tank! you can do a LEAK-DOWN test and generally see the difference in the leakage or loss of ring seal due to the thinner bore walls in the O.E.M. bore walls.
but ID also point out that your issue is hardly rare and adding a quart of oil every second or third gas fill-up is hardly un-usual with a high performance BBC.
I've used either one of these two products, applied on clean dry threads by dipping the stud threads just prior to assembly on those threads, waiting a minute for the stuff to start to get tacky,then screwing them in for decades

the rotating assembly bearings ,wrist pins and complete valve train,valve springs, lifters, valves and valve guides and the pistons and rings are where a great deal of the engine heat is generated, and those components are initially cooled with oil flow that absorbs and transfers the heat collected , and transported from those components to the block and coolant, so having a constant flow of pressurized oil flow over those parts are mandatory for maximum durability.thus adding a larger capacity baffled oil pan and an oil cooler will generally enhance and extend an engines life span.

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From a recent TSB from GM on oil consumption.
excerpt

A higher rate of oil consumption is normal for vehicles equipped with manual transmissions that are driven aggressively. By "aggressive," we mean operation at high RPM (3,000 RPM to redline), with frequent use of engine braking (using the engine to slow the vehicle). Vehicles that are driven aggressively may consume engine oil at a rate of up to 0.946 L (1 quart) every 805 km (500 mi). This is normal for a vehicle that is driven aggressively. No repair is necessary. This characteristic does, however, require the owner to check the engine oil level at sufficiently frequent intervals, especially when driving aggressively, to assure the oil level remains within the recommended operating range.



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Ive never had a rocker stud leak oil into the intake ports, but in theory its possible so coat the threads with sealant thread locker before they get installed. and leak or you find a loose stud, never had any issues removing them if required ,with the proper socket and breaker bar later either,
I'd also point out that the clearance in the piston ring grooves and back-spacing has a huge effect on the way the rings seal.
if the oil is not frequently changed, sludge build-up behind the rings greatly reduces the ring seal efficiency.
once varnish or burnt oil residue builds up behind piston rings they will fail to seal to the bore walls effectively increasing oil burning and oil fouling spark plugs
https://www.bgprod.com/catalog/engine/bg-quick-clean-for-engines/


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BTW, remember to visually verify the stud length and cut them a bit shorter if required you don,t want the lower end protruding into the intake port and any threads doing that do NOTHING to increase the stud rigidity but they sure can reduce port flow rates if left sticking down into the air flow path
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