a damn good value in an accurate and useful self defense pistol

Grumpy

The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer.
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I frequently get asked what pistol Id suggest for personal protection,
well theres lots of compromises and youll want to think over your choices carefully.
like any tool, Id darn sure want to sellect the best tool quality I could afford,
and find something that I personally felt I could totally depend on,

http://www.gunblast.com/EAA-Witness45.htm

http://eaacorp.com/index.php/guns/handguns/witness-steel-full-size-tanfoglio-52
having concealed carry legal cost insurance may be a huge financial life saver
http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/concealed-carry-liability-insurance.14222/
these full size all steel, Eaa whitness pistols
in the wonder finish ( similar too brush nickle) resist rust well,
they may be a bit heavy and large for easy pocket carry,
compared to a glock but the recoil is noticeably less,
and in my opinion its noticeably more accurate

come in 9mm, 38 super, 10mm and 45 acp are very well known for very good accuracy ,
10mm has more power and 14 cartridges in a magazine, 45 acp is cheaper to buy ammo for, holds 10 cartridges, and still very effective
all the comparative data between different calibers and pistol vs rifle etc might seem to indicate that caliber and power does not mater as much as most people think it does, but they IGNORE the fact that accurate shot placement, a knowledge of anatomy is critical, simply shooting at the adversary's torso and hitting it someplace does not indicate a well placed shot,as any hunter knows or learns, put a shot through the heart,, both lung's or , liver shots that destroy a lot of tissue as the pass through and exit, are generally fatal,

you might want to polish the feed ramps as occasionally that will increase feeding but once broken in these pistols function flawlessly
I've owned one for 20 years in 45 acp, it was my choice as a concealed carry option until I got a glock 20/10 mm
with practice consistently hitting a coke can size target, at 25 yards its very easy

either caliber will work and while the 10 mm holds 14 the 45 acp holds 10, cartridges.
the list price is about $660 but youll commonly find them priced closer to $500 new and a bit less used
I was asked what hand gun brands I would avoid, well, I had until recently a good friend who owned a gun-shop,
he was in business for over 50 years in the same location and he was also a damn skilled gunsmith,
every time I briefly mentally toy with the concept Of buying a Taurus I read threads like this...
probably why I only own & use S&W, glock,EAA,CZ,DAN WESSON, and ruger handguns.
no mechanical device is flawless,
all require frequent inspection,cleaning maintenance and lubrication ,
but some brands have a well deserved reputation for durability and accuracy
one of the local gun-shops was owned by a friend (who recently passed in his 80s) who would only sell tauras, lorsen,and rossi, handguns,
if you insisted on ordering and buying one, and he would start the conversation by informing you,
that he would not take it back or service it if you bought one,
he said many times Id rather loose a potential sale, than allow a customer to walk out with something that's not dependable.
now that was not the only brand's he tried too avoid selling,
but he was one totally honest guy and would tell you if you asked,
( exactly what brands he had constantly had issues and returns on, and what worked with very few issues)
(I REALLY wish DAN WESSON would bring back the larger revolvers and accessories like spare barrels)
https://www.tombstonetactical.com/catalog/eaa/1911-witness-pistol-10mm-4.5in-15rd-stainless/

https://www.tombstonetactical.com/catalog/eaa/1911-witness-pistol-45-acp-4.5in-10rd-stainless/



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related info

worth watching all the way through then thinking carefully,
https://www.concealedcarryuniversit...d-t2?cf_uvid=3eee8beb3826def12fb6ba51052e0ce6

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...n-a-defensive-handgun-would-be-and-why.11908/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/selecting-a-good-self-defence-handgun.1128/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-say-the-45-acp-is-a-great-man-stopper.12275/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/concealed-weapons-work.7656/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/first-handgun-choice.8355/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...bbie-revolver-with-kick-your-ass-punch.13661/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-a-38-spc-snubbie-a-bit-more-effective.11870/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/just-a-tip-that-might-save-your-life.13687/
 
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btw while it would hardly be my first choice in a deer hunting pistol , I lent Jack my 45 acp witness , a few years ago on a hunt out in the glades and he used it to drop a decent wild hog that dressed out at over 80 lbs

rules you need to adhere too,
(1) if you don,t carry all the time chances are you won,t have it if you need it!
(2) you better have practiced and be competent, in any weapons use, you carry.
(3) be aware of your surroundings and trust no one you don,t know REALLY WELL.
(4) try to stay out of higher risk situations and areas
(5) try hard to NOT get into any confrontation, if confronted,
apologize even if its totally not your problem or fault.
(6) once you pull a gun your almost always going to need expensive lawyers,
even if your totally justified.
(7)
a great deal of your health and financial welfare,
depends on remaining fully aware of whats going on around you,
at all times and using common sense,

I read several of these threads almost monthly,
you may have made an great choice!
each of us obviously will have vastly different life experiences and priority's,
and this has nothing to do with your particular choice being good or bad,
I just hope most guys think through their options and practice regularly.
my B-I-L had carried his pistol for three years and only because of my verbal prodding did he fire it the first time!
Like my B-I-L, I see a lot of guys who are much more concerned with the size and weight and easy of concealment,
than in a carry pistols accuracy and potential assailant stopping potential,
or put a bit differently if you had access to any pistol you could afford to own,
and you were forced to defend yourself and family, would the pistol you would select, be the same one you carry concealed?
Id just suggest anyone who carries concealed think over the choice they make carefully,
chances are very good you'll never have to bet your life on the pistol you carry's effectively stopping some mugger or psychopath ,
but if your ever in that confrontation, would you by choice want to have that pistol as your only defensive tool over some other option.
obviously theres always a compromise, you will need to think through,
in cartridge power, magazine capacity,dependability,durability,
accuracy and ease of use. and the last thing you ever want to see is,
a situation where you fired and hit the threat,
or fired the weapon until its empty
without stopping the assailant(s)
example my B-I-L selected a pocket 380 double action only pistol, due to its small size and light weight,
at the local indoor range
where hes not under stress, he has difficulty consistently hitting a full size silhouette,s vitals, rapid fire at 5 yards
yet he still thinks its the ideal carry pistol.I just shake my head, and can,t grasp the reasoning.

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