bits of tig welding info

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  1. grumpyvette

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    if you check out the local classified and bargain trader magazines and keep asking friends, constantly youll eventually see or hear of some screaming deals when some local factory or shop goes bankrupt or moves and unloads old welders dirt cheap, the key here is KNOWING what the equipment is your looking at and what ITS WORTH, and being able to identify single phase 230 volt welders.
    most guys will snap up the more common welders but you can get incredible deals at times on larger commercial welders., just because a welder might be rated at 350 amps doesn,t necessarily mean it can,t be used at much lower amp levels, I have one friend that found a deal on a 350 amp tig welder with a ton of extras several torches, fluid pumps etc. that cost $15 k new he picked up used for $3700 simply because it had a tag on it at an auction asking $6500 but the guy had no one else even bid, so the guy took my friends bid


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    https://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc....cpc&utm_content=3637&utm_campaign=product-ads

    its fully possible to weld aluminum with some of the larger amp rated MIG welders, or convert some arc welders to tig


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    but the cost to modify those existing mig or arc welders with the required accessory kits now exceed the cost of a few of the available new tig welders in some cases.
    obviously youll want to compare feature amp ratings and work/time

    https://www.eastwood.com/tig200acdc...MI2fuG1MaH2QIVGbXACh3zAwl5EAQYAyABEgLtUfD_BwE








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    https://www.millerwelds.com/accesso...product-options-title=spoolmatic-30-ft-130831

    https://www.millerwelds.com/equipment/welders/mig-gmaw/millermatic-252-mig-welder-m00218

    both lincoln and miller have kits available to convert the mig welders to either weld aluminum as a mig welder or convert existing arc welders to tig welding


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    several of my friends own this miller 212 mig welder and give it rave reviews
    https://www.millerwelds.com/equipment/welders/mig-gmaw/millermatic-212-auto-set-mig-welder-m00456



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    I bought this miller 252, mig several years ago,
    and so far its performed well on everything I've attempted to use it on,
    yes I think we all wish quality welders cost less,but you tend to get what you pay for in tool quality.
    and it should be obvious that you'll need too read the manual and practice a bit.
    before you get good results and loading the mig welder with quality wire
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    and using the correct shield gas is mandatory, and yes there,s adjustments on the welder wire feed and it helps to experiment a bit,
    and it should be obvious that the wire must be maintained rust free so spraying it with a bit of wd 40 might be a good idea ,
    and certainly covering the welder and keeping it stored in a well ventilated and dry place when not in use is mandatory.
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    https://www.millerwelds.com/equipment/welders/mig-gmaw/millermatic-252-mig-welder-m00218
    I don,t know anyone whose purchased a better quality lincoln or miller mig welder rated at 200 amps or higher that regrets spending the cash required to do so later on,
    but I,ve heard a good many people who bought much less expensive mig welder,
    who deeply regret not waiting and spending a bit more on a better welder.
    good option if you can afford too do so.
    http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200383272_200383272?cm_mmc=Bing-pla&utm_source=Bing_PLA&utm_medium=Welding > Engine Drive Welding&utm_campaign=Lincoln Electric&utm_content=164593
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    http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200622186_200622186

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    http://www.welderbros.com/best-tig-welder-reviews

    http://www.thetoolreport.com/best-tig-welders/

    http://weldinglist.com/best-tig-welder-reviews/

    https://www.cromweld.com/best-tig-welders/





    http://www.hotrod.com/articles/hrdp-0704-pitstop-fuel-injector-location/
    keep an eye out for any place like that welding shop that might be moving or closing you might be able to score a good financial deal,
    on a used welder, most places would rather make a few hundred bucks rather than store older equipment as they would generally prefer,
    to upgrade the equipment at the new location or when they restart the business.
    you might also look for adds in the local craigs list or bargain trader magazines.


    https://www.eastwood.com/welders/ti...MIjvmesPeF2QIVXrbACh3r0ARzEAAYASAAEgKgXvD_BwE

    https://www.red-d-arc.com/Used-Equi...US&BranchCode=016&Subclass=LK1478&BranchID=63

    ebay (look for local adds as the welder would ideally be tested before purchasing it)

    I found these links above interesting
    I bought a ANCIENT 1980s TIG 330 amp welder used, for a bit less than $1000 with a liquid cooled torch and accessories ,GAUGES , years ago,

    it may be old but it TIG welds just fine,
    and has paid for itself many time over in that length of time.
    many welder shops charge a minimum hourly rate or something like $40 plus $1 an inch for welds,
    the cost racks up much more rapidly than you might imagine and makes owning a welder and knowing how to use it well, a damn good investment
    a simple job like adding injector bosses to an intake can be done with a properly set up mig or tig welder for under $60 in materials if you own a welder and drill press, but most shops will charge well north of $250 -$330 to do that for you,
    obviously at that rate it pays off a welder rapidly






    yes I'd upgrade in a 1/2 a heartbeat if I had the finances and pass that welder on to someone else as it still functions perfectly, but its certainly not up-to-date
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    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ng-to-water-cooled-tig-torch.8710/#post-30680

    I'm certainly not a professional welder by any stretch ,
    but I can,t see how anyone can seriously function in this hobby without access to a decent welder. a decent drill press, floor jack and jack stands, and a hydraulic press
    yes I'm admittedly a tool junky , and I like having access to decent quality tools.
    I find that most people are more familiar with MIG welders and I see far more MIG welders in my friends shops.





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    several of my friends own this miller 212 mig welder and give it rave reviews
    https://www.millerwelds.com/equipment/welders/mig-gmaw/millermatic-212-auto-set-mig-welder-m00456



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    I bought this miller 252, mig several years ago,
    and so far its performed well on everything I've attempted to use it on,
    yes I think we all wish quality welders cost less,but you tend to get what you pay for in tool quality.
    and it should be obvious that you'll need too read the manual and practice a bit.
    before you get good results and loading the mig welder with quality wire
    [​IMG]
    and using the correct shield gas is mandatory, and yes there,s adjustments on the welder wire feed and it helps to experiment a bit,
    and it should be obvious that the wire must be maintained rust free so spraying it with a bit of wd 40 might be a good idea ,
    and certainly covering the welder and keeping it stored in a well ventilated and dry place when not in use is mandatory.
    [​IMG]
    https://www.millerwelds.com/equipment/welders/mig-gmaw/millermatic-252-mig-welder-m00218
    I don,t know anyone whose purchased a better quality lincoln or miller mig welder rated at 200 amps or higher that regrets spending the cash required to do so later on,
    but I,ve heard a good many people who bought much less expensive mig welder,
    who deeply regret not waiting and spending a bit more on a better welder.
     
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