CS 144 High Amp Alternators

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  1. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    CS144 They are Bar None the Very Best Internal Regulated Non PCM external black box alternator ever made.

    The only reason to use a Vintage 10DN or 10SI is for a pure stock restoration.
    For C2 & Early C3 Corvettes with the mighty 327, 350 LT1, 396 BB, 427 Tripower & King of the Hill L88 Hemi 426 Killer Street Race car, 454.
    DZ302 ci V8.
    Pontiac side be 1968 Ram Air II.
    1969-1970 Pontiac Ram Air IV.

    I see absolute no reason to use otherwise here on Grumpys where Hotrod & Race car is desired.

    CS130 is just Ok.
    Trust me it can not handle high amp loads very well in summer time heat with modern electric fans used we all like & prefer.
    Just 2 superior mechanical flex fans were ever used and that is the 1967-1969 L88 Corvette.
    1970 Pontiac Trans Am RAIV ...none had AC ever..race car like a L88 Vette.

    Its been along time since the CS144 was installed production new on GM Vehicles.
    Once the LS 5.3 came along the CS 144 was replaced with a PCM PWM DR44. Good alternator too but it needs computer control or an aftermarket Black box added to make it turn and self regulate charge.

    I can tell you it sucks when your out cruising & the alternator fails.
    Leaves you stranded.
    The daily driver too.

    Found a small supply of these new Remy CS144 alternators.
    Made in Mexico but last one I took apart was A-Ok & decent parts used.
    With everything going on....Not sure how much longer the stock will be there.
    They are not as plentiful to find used as once was.

    They only came standard stock on Later C4 Corvettes & SS Impala LT1.
    Optional on many other GM Trucks, Tahoe , & Suburban so not every vehicle had them when new.
    Most had the cheeper smaller CS130.

    Building a CS144 1-wire charge output soon for my old T/A.
    Need 100 % reliability.
    Using the best alternator ever made CS144.
    Moroso Racing Pulley 5.00 inch because its High RPM use I will do.

    Have another CS144 coming in next week.
    Build it the same but with a different drive pulley so it charges yet at 750-800 crank rpm & belt stays on yet up to 6500 RPM.
     
  2. Maniacmechanic1

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  4. Ernest Shaw

    Ernest Shaw Retired machinist

    I have at least two of these style alternators in my parts stash that came on the mid 90's Caprice and Roadmasters. The AD244 alternator is a fine alternator also. If you look in the glove boxes on most vehicles you'll find a sticker that lists all the options on a vehicle. The code you're looking for is KG3 for the high output GM alternator. I have some that are four pin style, which is what I used on my S10 and there is a two pin version that's computer controlled. The 2 pin alternator can be used with mods (replacing with a 4 pin regulator) and it will deliver about 14 volts in its default mode when not used with the computer.
     
  5. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    AD244 is based off the CS130D.
    Mainly used on GM 3.1V6 Front Wheel drive and Chevy trucks.
    Lacking the 6 & 12 O'clock mounting.

    A few other vintage great alternators made.
    The Delcotron 15si.
    The Delco Grey Ghost used on Diesel semi trucks.
    Leese Neville from 11 liter to 18 liter semi trucks.
    The Ford Blue Back alternator.

    Everyone is Free to use what they want to.
    President Trump is keeping the USA free yet.
    Government shutdown that may last several years.
    Every Pontiac Trans Am owner knows it's Doomsday present on Facebook.
    Sheet hits the fan.
    Hit the key...dead battery.
    Crap alternator failed.
    Your screwed.
    Especially when your real old and can not run 20 miles non stop.
    Fire off shots too.

    Need your Chevy...Pontiac...Oldsmobile V8 ready to Fire up instant.
    Redline 6-7 k rpm non stop.
    Alternator belt not to fly off too.

    DOOMSDAY BUILDS.
    I SPECIALIZE IN.
     
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  6. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    I ordered bought a Reproduction exact of the 1967-1969 L88 Corvette & 1967-1969 DZ302 Deep groove 3-5/8" Deep groove alternator pulley.
    Made of steel and cadmium plated.
    Researched and no one else makes exact specs in Billet aluminum.
    Install it on the other CS144 I am building soon too.
     
  7. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    I received the 2nd CS144 Remy Alternator in .
    Mint perfect.
    The L88 Corvette Alternator pulley has been shipped and waiting to receive.
    Going to build Two CS144 1-wire alternators this weekend.
    1 is for my 70TA & Other for a member here.

    Going to order a 3rd Remy CS144.
    Have a spare with 6 &12 O'clock mounting points.

    Make the order for my Diamonds soon also.
     
  8. Ernest Shaw

    Ernest Shaw Retired machinist

    What's the going rate for a stock CS144 with the 6&12 position housing? Are the ones with the 4&8 positions worth getting too?
     
  9. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Kinda hard to tell right now.
    Everything is LS right now but seems to be tapering off. Value on used LS is low and many vehicles have 200,000-400,000 miles. LS engines don't lend to rebuilding well and cost effective many see.
    Junk and get another.
    Not many SBC & BBC left on the road and daily driven.
    Depends upon the individual and where he lives at.
    What he is willing to pay.
    Trucks are most important on Doomsday.
    4x4 Goes offroad.
    Most Hotrods will bottom out.
    Some Hotrods will make good chase vehicles.
     
  10. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    I noticed in the last year all 1987-1995 TBI 350 Trucks and Suburban are no longer on the road here in Illinois.
    Same with 1996-1999 Chevy Tahoe & Suburban Vortech 350 V8.
    My 1999 Chevy Tahoe 4x4 appears to be last left driven and running for a 100 mile radius.
    I am a Mechanic and kept it going.
    #1 issue Likely is the 4L60E transmission died in others.
    I rebuilt mine last year.
     
  11. 55C150

    55C150 Well-Known Member

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    Is this the black you told me about?
     
  12. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Its Dirty.
    The Gp sits outside.
    So does the Corvette. Corvettes became worthless last year all. Dodge Cremated Corvette.
    Other car is super rare. Garaged.
     
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  14. 55C150

    55C150 Well-Known Member

    It's looking good, I like the "dirty" version, I'm not the shiny guy.
     
  15. Maniacmechanic1

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  16. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    I built Two CS144 Alternators today from new Remy Cores.
    Pitched the stock Electronics & used my own Transpo Electronics.
    1 Wire hookup charge output & instant turn on with crank rotation detected.

    1 is for a member here. The L88 reproduction pulley did not show up today due to heavy snow.
    Going to paint it Semi Gloss VHT Epoxy Black.

    The other is mine for the Trans Am.
    Moroso 5" inch Billet Hard anodized Black Alternator pulley installed.
    I painted it Titanium Silver Blue.
    Very Close to 1966-1970 Pontiac V8 factory engine color.
    Think it turned out Great.
     
  17. 55C150

    55C150 Well-Known Member

    Looking great. The Moroso pulley is big, but I know the ratio is for high revving race engines.
     
  18. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    It's For my own..full race cam. 110 octane gas uncut.
    Racecar with a license plate.
    Old School Illinois .
    Not something for everyone here.
    L88 pulley should be here tommarrow.
    Snowed alot so no mail yesterday.
     
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  20. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    The Reproduction L88 Corvette Pulley fits like a Glove.
    Made real nice.
    Picked up a can of VHT Epoxy Satin Black paint for this CS144.
    Get it painted this weekend.
    No time after work & its dark outside.
    Need daylight to see and spray with no runs.
     

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