garage security

Discussion in 'Shop Plans, and some larger shop tool related inf' started by grumpyvette, Oct 1, 2008.

  1. grumpyvette

    grumpyvette Administrator Staff Member

    Stuff A Burglar Will Not Tell You.
    1. Of course I look familiar. I was here just last week cleaning your
    carpets, painting your shutters, or delivering your new refrigerator.

    2. Hey, thanks for letting me use the bathroom when I was working in
    your yard last week. While I was in there, I unlatched the back window
    to make my return a little easier.

    3. Love those flowers. That tells me you have taste... and taste means
    there are nice things inside. Those yard toys your kids leave out
    always make me wonder what type of gaming system they have.

    4. Yes, I really do look for newspapers piled up on the driveway. And
    I might leave a pizza flyer in your front door to see how long it
    takes you to remove it..

    5. If it snows while you're out of town, get a neighbor to create car
    and foot tracks into the house. Virgin drifts in the driveway are a
    dead giveaway.

    6. If decorative glass is part of your front entrance, don't let your
    alarm company install the control pad where I can see if it's set.
    That makes it too easy.

    7. A good security company alarms the window over the sink. And the
    windows on the second floor, which often access the master bedroom -
    and your jewelry. It's not a bad idea to put motion detectors up there

    8. It's raining, you're fumbling with your umbrella, and you forget to
    lock your door - understandable. But understand this: I don't take a
    day off because of bad weather.

    9. I always knock first. If you answer, I'll ask for directions
    somewhere or offer to clean your gutters. (Don't take me up on it.)

    10. Do you really think I won't look in your sock drawer? I always
    check dresser drawers, the bedside table, and the medicine cabinet.

    11. Here's a helpful hint: I almost never go into kids' rooms.

    12. You're right: I won't have enough time to break into that safe
    where you keep your valuables. But if it's not bolted down, I'll take
    it with me.

    13. A loud TV or radio can be a better deterrent than the best alarm
    system. If you're reluctant to leave your TV on while you're out of
    town, you can buy a $35 device that works on a timer and simulates the
    flickering glow of a real television. (Find it


    1. Sometimes, I carry a clipboard. Sometimes, I dress like a lawn guy
    and carry a rake. I do my best to never, ever look like a crook.

    2. The two things I hate most: loud dogs and nosy neighbors.

    3. I'll break a window to get in, even if it makes a little noise. If
    your neighbor hears one loud sound, he'll stop what he's doing and
    wait to hear it again... If he doesn't hear it again, he'll just go
    back to what he was doing. It's human nature.

    4. I'm not complaining, but why would you pay all that money for a
    fancy alarm system and leave your house without setting it?

    5. I love looking in your windows. I'm looking for signs that you're
    home, and for flat screen TVs or gaming systems I'd like. I'll drive
    or walk through your neighborhood at night, before you close the
    blinds, just to pick my targets.

    6. Avoid announcing your vacation on your Facebook page. It's easier
    than you think to look up your address.

    7. To you, leaving that window open just a crack during the day is a
    way to let in a little fresh air. To me, it's an invitation.

    8. If you don't answer when I knock, I try the door. Occasionally, I
    hit the jackpot and walk right in.
  2. security gates

    security gates New Member

    Informative board you have here. I see a lot of content pertaining Home security. This is in line with my business as well. Hope to read more current ideas. :)
  3. grumpyvette

    grumpyvette Administrator Staff Member

    bits of info I found on keyless ignition ... 01/FR60003

    Guys I was able to find my installation manuals, this is were I made all the notes as to which cables I was was tapping into.

    Here is the info:

    for the Alarm/Proximity Controller

    Main Harness (8-Pin)

    Brown: Not Used
    Grey(2 wires): Tapped into Brown cable on Headlight switch
    Red: Red on Ignition
    Green: Red/Black @ BCM Green PLUG
    Blue: Orange/Black & Gray/Black @ BCM Green PLUG with Diodes
    Black: Ground
    Purple: Black @ BCM Blue PLUG

    Accessory Harness (7-PIN)

    Purple: to push to start module
    Brown: Light Blue @ brake pedal switch
    Green: white @ BCM
    Red: Orange ACC @ ignition

    Push to Start Module

    Main Harness(Attached)

    white: Starter(yellow cable @ ignition)
    Red (two wires): Red @ ignition
    Green: ON1 (pink @ ignition)
    Black: ground
    Yellow: orange ACC @ ignition

    Accessory Harness (6 Pin)

    Purple: to keyless(proximity)
    Brown: Light Blue on Brake pedal
    Yellow: to tach 2002 camaro its a white cable on Blue connector pin #10

    I did this on a 2002 camaro, I know that 2000 and below colors will vary on the BCM and tach.

    I had multiple wiring diagrams to compare.

    Let me know if I missed anything or if any questions come up.

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  4. grumpyvette

    grumpyvette Administrator Staff Member

    Who uses Lojack and is it worth it??

    thats a good question and its not your only option, look into those options and at least have a decent alarm on your car and garage, Id suggest that BEFORE YOU HAVE what ever tracking device you have installed in the car, you Call your local and State police agencies, to see if they have the required equipment in current active service,and have someone that knows how to use it anytime its required, before even considering installing it.
    Id also suggest having an alarm on your garage.

    They don't all employ what's needed to track every different brand or version available, ... racker.php,-Trucks-And-Classics,2817,2388779,00.asp ... 7AodwRsA5g


    (1) keep the car out of sight and preferably in a locked garage when parked

    (2) your garage should have an alarm with an incredibly loud bell or siren, that can,t be disabled by killing the power and good locks and video camera surveillance

    (3)the car should have a tracking device like lO-JACK

    (4) get good insurance with AGREED VALUE pay off

    (5) a hidden fuel cut-off switch and ignition bye-pass sure won,t hurt

    (6) a fenced yard with at least one large dog is obviously one option that tends to reduce trespassers

    (7) parking the car with another locked car blocking access makes its theft take time, and the longer it takes the less incentive a thief sees

    (8) redundant, overlapping,motion sensor lighting helps especially if each lighted area is hooked to a loud chime , that bongs when it comes on.

  5. grumpyvette

    grumpyvette Administrator Staff Member

    just a reminder to NOT get

    like I mentioned previously Ive got numerous motion sensors for my security system and ,numerous motion sensor flood lights in my shop which makes it rather easy to walk thru the dark shop as the lighting turns on in each area as you enter and stays on,it also lets the wife in the house know I'm still alive as she hears a beep when the sensor picks up movement in the shop, the motion sensor lights making it rather easy to locate the overhead light switches , fan switches alarm key pads etc., well today I noticed one flood light bulb was burnt out and I grab a replacement bulb and move the ladder I have over, but find theres several engine blocks on a pallet in the ideal location for the ladder base , so in a moment of total stupidity I place the ladder straddling the engines, rather than just taking the 5 minutes to move them, naturally as soon as I start to climb the ladder the base skids out,, totally because of the stupid way Id placed the ladder, luckily I'm not hurt and don,t fall, but it sure reminded me not to be a dumb lazy fool, and think a bit before working unsafely, SO!, coming to what little senses I still have left at 66 years old, I moved the darn parts, repositioned the ladder and changed the bulb safely like I should have done in the first place
  6. Indycars

    Indycars Administrator Staff Member

    I for sure I knew where this post was going when you mentioned lights and saw
    the aluminum ladder photo ....... ELECTRICAL SHOCK!!!

    But you fooled me this time!!! :p

  7. grumpyvette

    grumpyvette Administrator Staff Member

    heres a couple 9-10 camera night vision compatible security systems,(linked below) that you can self install, that allow you to visually access your home over a cell phone or the internet , or from a computer monitor screen in your home or both,and of course set it up that way with a home view monitor.
    (provided you have the security code and know how) that allows you to place cameras outside or inside your home or shop or both, and put the camera output on a video monitor or the computer screen . now obviously a multi layered approach too security where you have a standard monitored burglar alarm and decent locks on the home and shop would also be very helpful. as will numerous motion sensor light fixtures, and an audible buzzer that notifies people inside the home when outside motion lights come on
    but having a video record of everything moving around your shop and home could be useful ... 13053.html
    If your looking for a decent values in video surveillance system for your home and shop you may want to look these and similar systems over, the $700 price may seem a bit high and you certainly would use it, and most of us have far more than $700 invested in tools cars etc. we would like to protect from theft and a home to protect from invasion by those in society that think that they can steal, rape and pillage at will.

    having a really loud alarm bell and a quality , monitored alarm system,that works even if the power is cut off, that has a cell phone dialer and battery back-up with motion sensors and door and window sensors on your home and shop is smart! ... +sds-p5102

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  8. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

    I recently helped install this video system in a friends home and shop, its a fairly simple deal, to install physically, what they don,t mention (probably because it should be rather obvious) is it will require a fairly large tv/computer video screen because youll have a screen divided into 16 equal size squares with sub-pictures showing what each camera sees in its out of the box configuration.keep in mind the video system allows you to see whats going on around your home or shop day or night when properly installed , even from a distant location, but it should be redundant with a separate monitored alarm system, and having both a few fire extinguishers,quality door locks and a skill with firearms sure won,t hurt either,you need to both be aware of whats going on, AND have an effective method of getting a back-up like police or the fire department nearly instantly PLUS have a sort term ability to provide medical, fire and physical defensive force if required
    the system has , or comes in various configurations, you can buy a 4 camera-16 camera prepackaged kit, his particular kit came with, 12 cameras and room to plug in 16 cameras in THEORY it comes with all the cables and connectors you need also, in reality it came with 8- 60 ft and 2 -90 ft long camera cables,I found these to be either too short or too long, we used 3/4" flex tube to protect the camera wires and a centrally located 3 ft x 2 ft sq back board and clamps to run the cables through the attic and down through walls or out through roof eve soffits to camera locations.
    each camera requires a unique individual wire run from the central control to camera
    and while its not obvious to everyone youll want a redundant burglar alarm system with motion sensors, door & window magnetic contacts and infra-red sensors, and a constantly off sight monitoring capability ,ideally with verbal over look that allows off sight system function verification and activation
    Adding motion sensor lighting around your home and shop,that has the ability to alert you to movement at night on your property is a big plus, you can with little effort if you research it a bit ,install a audio alert in addition to the motion sensor lighting helps
    Word of caution for you guys using cell network to transmit security data.
    A cheap ass ebay cell jammer makes your shit worthless. Have a hardline to a battery backup pc running a google phone number as backup.



    I am rather impressed now, with my friends security ,video cameras and alarm system additional improvements , in my opinion your can,t really have too many redundant safety and security features on your home and shop,my friend used to kid me about my shops security but know hes,either started to get a bit paranoid or he watches the news to often, he bought and installed a 48" TV to use exclusively and full time as a monitor,& security system display screen and hes got 14 cameras in various locations around the home and shop plus hes just added several motion sensor lights to the property and monitored from off site security that can now access and look at the camera feeds plus a separate audio two way speech/paging, in addition to the motion and contact sensors for the security system.
    what started out to be rather simple and costing under $900, is now crept up in capability and scope to a multi layer and rather sophisticated security system that has easily cost at least $2300 when all the extra wiring, cameras and the added monitored alarm components were added into the mix, but its a rather small price to pay if it prevents a home invasion or burglary, etc. which could easily result in much higher cost plus personal harm to family members
    theres few areas now where anyone on the property is not on camera from some angle,and while to many people that may seem excessive I think its just adding a bit of extra safety and reducing the potential for trouble.

    if your serious you need a multi-layered approach and youll want a monitored alarm,
    you can certainly get a decent deal if your willing to do the installation yourself.
    first Id strongly suggest you buy a security system with enough cameras and the ability to record what they see.

    I looked over his system and upgraded mine!
    locking gates on fences and house and shop doors will obviously be a start,
    and having decent quality locks or chains etc. helps
    having a couple nervous dog;s that bark every time they hear the mailman or ups truck certainly does not hurt either
    as does having several motion sensor lights mounted on the home and shop,
    where they can provide both good lighting coverage and not be easily accessed from the ground without a ladder.
    to reduce the possibility of prowlers disabling the lights.
    an off sight monitored security system with multiple cameras that work in both day light and infrared at night certainly adds security.
    having securely locking windows and doors and a burglar alarm with a battery back-up, cell phone wireless dialing capability , so the lines can,t easily be cut, and several very loud outside bells in the 120 decibel range adds further security!
    I went with ADT monitored alarms with contacts on all doors and windows and motion sensors
    youll need a large computer monitor for each, as they show real time camera views on all cameras
    in addition,
    I purchase TWO of these systems, one for the home and one for the shop, they can be monitored 24 / 7 off site and from your laptop or some cell phones




    cables are available PREMADE in 25, 50, 100, 150, 200 ft lengths


    Last edited: Aug 1, 2017
  9. Indycars

    Indycars Administrator Staff Member

    The prices are getting better and better all the time. It's been on my mind lately.
  10. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

    BTW if you happen to have experience using various tools, installing BNC and power connectors on the security camera cables
    I know from my experience as an AT&T engineer that both the connectors themselves the tools used to install them and the quality of the cable your using all effect the finished results,
    so if you have recommendations on any facet please post your input
  11. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

  12. Ricky2Martin

    Ricky2Martin New Member

    Thanks for the information dear. Very Helpful and also Best top rated links so far.
  13. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

    unfortunately I have zero control on other websites
    and business removing what at the time they were posted WERE very useful links

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