there are seven states that now mandate "shotgun slugs only" either statewide, or in large areas. These are: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Ohio, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and Rhode Island. Then there are 15 more that have regional regs to the same effect: Alabama, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New York, North and South Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin. Moreover, two more states, Kentucky and Maine, will probably go the partial route, if not for this season, then in '97. There was a long time when many of these states couldn't decide just what to make of these new-fangled shotguns with rifled bores. Were they shotguns or rifles? Were they legal in the context of the existing game laws? Fortunately, all have resolved the issue and none of the 22 aforementioned states disallow the rifled barrel. I've said before, if you do business where there are no bans against the use of high-power rifles for hunting, you needn't concern yourself with what's happening on the slug scene. But if that's not the case, there's something for you to bone up on this year. With Savage and Mossberg having entered the market with fully-rifled, bolt-action slug guns, that now brings to four the number of major manufacturers to have done so. Last year, Browning and Marlin did it. I've just finished testing the two new guns, the Mossberg 695 and the Savage 210. The former is derived from an action Mossberg's been using for decades as a basis for a budget line of shotguns. Savage, on the other hand, had no such existing action and designed one from scratch, based on the 3-inch 12-gauge shotshell. Since this is not GUNS magazine where new firearms are reported on in depth, suffice to say that these guns are capable of some pretty astounding accuracy - like 2 1/2-inch groups from the bench at 100 yards. Not only are the sabot loads of Federal, Winchester, Lightfield - and the Copper Solids of Remington - accurate, but they virtually double the effective range of the old Foster-type slugs when used in smoothbores. Despite all this newfound potential, however, these guns are still 125-yard Whitetail and Black Bear rigs, period. Along this vein, I've heard that some of my gun-writing colleagues have commented that these guns are effective out to 175 and even 200 yards. Not only is this not true, but to even hint that the rifled slug gun with sabots is lethal out to 200 yards is a great disservice to both the industry and the hunting fraternity. https://shop.opticsplanet.com/dnz-p...MIneaPla6D2QIVXZ7ACh2UdwA3EAQYAyABEgLnpvD_BwE http://www.midwayusa.com/product/633843 ... g-box-of-5 I'VE NOT USED THESE YET ON BEARS, BUT ON A 200 LB HOG , AND DEER,THEY ARE DEVASTATING, AND A 1 3/8 OZ SLUG AT 1800FPS WITH OVER 3300 FT LBS SHOULD GET DAMN NEAR ANYTHINGS ATTENTION THIS SAVAGE IS AN EXCELLENT GUN these bolt action shotguns have rifled bore designed to stabilize slugs YES THERES A LOWER RECOIL 20GA VERSION anyone that thinks buck shots a great option for bear or elk, really should stack up three sheets of 2 ft x 2 ft square sheets or 3/4" plywood , and place a target on it , staple a sheet of typing paper 8.5" x 11" horizontally as a representative kill /vital zone place the target stack of plywood out at 50 yards fire two quick shots , with buckshot, if you do have buckshot hit the kill zone look at the rear of the plywood for buck shot pellet exits your not going to find any...now repeat the process with slugs, in most cases they both hit the kill zone and exit the stack of ply wood, think that over your potentially going to get out and look for that bear, do you want a dead bear or one highly motivated to get revenge on the cause of his injury. https://www.savagearms.com/firearms/...s/212-slug-gun yes they also make it in 20 ga for the guys that are very recoil sensitive personally I want the 12 ga version, but I know several guys with both ga versions and both versions work, on the deer and hogs Ive seen shot, but theres no real comparison in how hard they hit and as always proper shot placement and a knowledge of the games anatomy is required (1)call and talk to the local game department biologist, and game wardens ask about what the bears eat in your area, at this time of year, and where they travel, and population density's (2) get a topo map of the areas you intend to hunt (get out and scout and start exercising) (3) personally Id suggest you use a high quality scope , with decent low light optics , on a rifle that has at least about 2700 ft lbs of energy with a 150-250 grain bullet think 270 win, 308 win,358 win or a bit more. (4)practice shooting from field positions, not off a bench rest , once the rifles zeroed in correctly (5)get a copy of the local hunting regulations (6) learn bear anatomy (7) bears have a great nose, use scent killer on clothes and boots https://www.fieldandstream.com/answ...est-way-hunt-black-bears-without-baiting-them https://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/hunting/2013/08/how-hunt-bear-without-bait-or-dogs http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/212camo http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/ http://www.chuckhawks.com/savage_slug_gun.htm if your restricted to shotgun only areas , your not in as bad shapes as you might at first think! these rifled slug guns do a really good job on deer out to about 140 yards my late uncle, used his savage slug gun to kill several large black bears, and while the average range was under 75 yards he stated it slammed them so hard they rarely did more than spin, fall and twitch http://www.chuckhawks.com/shotgun_slugs.htm http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/i ... 0152654112 https://www.midsouthshooterssupply....y-shotgun-mould-sabot-slug-12-gauge-525-grain https://www.midwayusa.com/product/7...g-bullet-mold-12-gauge-681-diameter-525-grain keep in mind these slugs are loaded inside a plastic shot-cup, that compresses and grips the slug, and rifling, in the shotguns bore, (if its a rifled bore designed for slugs) as its forced down the bore, the slug itself never touches the shotgun bores rifling , which acts as a sabot thats discarded as it leaves the bore. you can buy a mold and cast your own at a considerable cost savings if you reload.