I didnt do what I should have now I am in oil pump purgatory.

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NitroInjected

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I never turned over the pump by hand I instead filled it with heavy duty oil. There needs to be an explination here as well. The pump I am using is notorious for not priming.
I put the motor in the car not knowing how much of a B**** it was pre oiled the system and cranked... nothing

Mistakenly used axle grease in the pump still no go.

Used petroleum jelly no go.

Took it off and made damn sure the gasket maker I used made a strong seal to the block and the pickup tube... PAcked it with petrolium jelly and filled the oil filter with oil... Nothing... .

Only thing it could be other than this pump is a piece of S*** is the union olive between the block and the pickup tube... But that bolts in with a big plastic olive... I remember searching for it and installing it...

I cant keep cranking knowing how dry the cam jornals must be...
 
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re-Lube Engine Oiler Tank

New Pre-Lube Engine Oiler tank tool now available!

Part # MPL-101

A MUST HAVE TOOL TO PRE-LUBE ENGINES

• Eliminates dry starts after engine rebuilds
• Eliminates initial wear on engine components
• Can be used on all internal combustion engines


Click here to Download FULL PDF Product Release

Additional Info:

The newest addition to Melling’s offering is a pre-lube tank. This design is necessary because of the inability to prime the oiling system in today’s modern engine with the oil pump mounted over the crankshaft. We did not need this in older engines because you could use the tools provided by Melling and a common drill to turn the pump and prime the system.

Here is some more details about the tank:


The size of the whole unit is about ½ the size of your gas grill propane tank.
Normal engine oil is used to fill the tank. (use the oil that will be used to break in the engine)
The tank will hold 4 quarts maximum. Usually 3 quarts is sufficient to fill the engine. The tank even has a dipstick.
The tank is then pressurized using your air compressor.
Included with the unit are the most popular two adaptors to fit most engines. 1/8th x 1/8th and 1/8th x ¼ are the two sizes included.
The adaptor is installed on the engine and then screwed to the hose from the tank.
The fill vale is turned and in a very short period of time oil will be flowing from the valvetrain area of the engine. The prime is complete. Fill the engine with oil, complete the build and start an engine that will live for a long time. You will not suffer from dry

re-Lube Engine Oiler Tank

New Pre-Lube Engine Oiler tank tool now available!

Part # MPL-101

A MUST HAVE TOOL TO PRE-LUBE ENGINES

• Eliminates dry starts after engine rebuilds
• Eliminates initial wear on engine components
• Can be used on all internal combustion engines


Click here to Download FULL PDF Product Release

Additional Info:

The newest addition to Melling’s offering is a pre-lube tank. This design is necessary because of the inability to prime the oiling system in today’s modern engine with the oil pump mounted over the crankshaft. We did not need this in older engines because you could use the tools provided by Melling and a common drill to turn the pump and prime the system.

Here is some more details about the tank:


The size of the whole unit is about ½ the size of your gas grill propane tank.
Normal engine oil is used to fill the tank. (use the oil that will be used to break in the engine)
The tank will hold 4 quarts maximum. Usually 3 quarts is sufficient to fill the engine. The tank even has a dipstick.
The tank is then pressurized using your air compressor.
Included with the unit are the most popular two adaptors to fit most engines. 1/8th x 1/8th and 1/8th x ¼ are the two sizes included.
The adaptor is installed on the engine and then screwed to the hose from the tank.
The fill vale is turned and in a very short period of time oil will be flowing from the valvetrain area of the engine. The prime is complete. Fill the engine with oil, complete the build and start an engine that will live for a long time. You will not suffer from dry
 
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NitroInjected said:
I never turned over the pump by hand I instead filled it with heavy duty oil. There needs to be an explination here as well. The pump I am using is notorious for not priming.
I put the motor in the car not knowing how much of a B**** it was pre oiled the system and cranked... nothing

Mistakenly used axle grease in the pump still no go.

Used petroleum jelly no go.

Took it off and made damn sure the gasket maker I used made a strong seal to the block and the pickup tube... PAcked it with petrolium jelly and filled the oil filter with oil... Nothing... .

Only thing it could be other than this pump is a piece of S*** is the union olive between the block and the pickup tube... But that bolts in with a big plastic olive... I remember searching for it and installing it...

I cant keep cranking knowing how dry the cam jornals must be...
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Its sucking in air the Lotus engine oil pickup tube or bottomed out in the pan floor.
The only way it is possible no oil flow.
Yeah it sounds like you need that special Olive Union Coupler.
 
NitroInjected said:
I never turned over the pump by hand I instead filled it with heavy duty oil. There needs to be an explination here as well. The pump I am using is notorious for not priming.
I put the motor in the car not knowing how much of a B**** it was pre oiled the system and cranked... nothing

Mistakenly used axle grease in the pump still no go.

Used petroleum jelly no go.

Took it off and made damn sure the gasket maker I used made a strong seal to the block and the pickup tube... PAcked it with petrolium jelly and filled the oil filter with oil... Nothing... .

Only thing it could be other than this pump is a piece of S*** is the union olive between the block and the pickup tube... But that bolts in with a big plastic olive... I remember searching for it and installing it...

I cant keep cranking knowing how dry the cam jornals must be...
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Buick V8 has a crappy oil pump stock too.
 
GOT IT!!! It was the GOD D*** Alternator bracket and charge cooler pump letting air into the stupid thing... Poor design if you ask me but whos askin me? Either way I got that done and didnt fry my mains so now I can move on to the final things like fitting the last three sensors needed for a start. Which are: Cam and crank sensors and throttle position. With those in I can fire. Then the remaining bits are: Coolant hoses wire tidying, Turbo plenum and turbo pipes. Oh and a piece of pipe
 
NitroInjected said:
GOT IT!!! It was the GOD D*** Alternator bracket and charge cooler pump letting air into the stupid thing... Poor design if you ask me but whos askin me? Either way I got that done and didnt fry my mains so now I can move on to the final things like fitting the last three sensors needed for a start. Which are: Cam and crank sensors and throttle position. With those in I can fire. Then the remaining bits are: Coolant hoses wire tidying, Turbo plenum and turbo pipes. Oh and a piece of pipe
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Good Deal.
 
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