I Got Ask To Provide Info On A Load For A Rifle

[Grumpy]

I Got Ask To Provide hand load, Info On A Load For A Rifle a friend just purchased
The problem here is that each rifle is rather unique, what may be a stellar and accurate load in my rifles MAY or MAY NOT, provide similar results in your rifle.
factors like twist rates, and chamber rifling lead distance, barrel harmonics, even the way a shooter holds a rifle, can make a big difference.
yeah, I can tell you what works great in my rifle but it may or may not work the same in even a similar rifle in every case.
a change in the powder charge or primer or bullet brand can make a significant change in group size.

those gentlemen that are not into reloading their own ammo are very unlikely to have seen the differences than what might be considered minimal changes to the ammo can cause!
example
I have a 30/06 BLR that will consistently place three shots at 100 yards off a good bench rest in less than a 3/4" group with one favorite load I use
53 grains of imr 4350 and a 215 fed primer under a 200 grain speer bullet, seated out to the max length that the magazine and chamber will allow.
that load and bullet has become my standard for that rifle as a result
https://www.speer.com/bullets/rifle_bullets/hot-cor_rifle_bullet/19-2211.html

Shooter's Reference Cartridges

www.shootersreference.com

change the over all seated bullet/ cartridge length, primer or powder charge
even marginally and 1.5"-2" 100 yard 3 shot groups are more likely
one of the guys I hunt with has a remington bolt action 30/06 that shoots the same ammo into about 2.4" groups,
but he consistently gets 1" groups with 150 grain hornadys and WW760 powder
theres no doubt that each rifle seems to prefer specific ammo configurations and as a hand loader it can take some effort/time to find that preferred matching load.
Id also have to point out that about 90% of the deer and elk Ive ever shot with that BLR in caliber 30/06 have been shot at well under 200 yards,
and I doubt there would have been a nickels worth of difference , in the results, (very dead game)
if I used that favorite handload or one that held a 2" group with a similar bullet

 

[rlphvac]

Thats just part of the fun of reloading and why I prefer to shoot down at the farm with no interruptions . I built a wolmanized shooting bench a few years ago that it takes the front loader to move I bought a bullet length checker and the modified case for each caliber I shoot so in a way I'm kind of starting over seating 20 thousandths off the lands

 

[chromebumpers]

Funny story. My wife is on a local (our town of Ottsville) Facebook section and our neighbors one block over posted this request.

“To our friends on Deerfield. We are having a wedding reception at our house, Saturday afternoon. Will my neighbors on the block please refrain from fire practice that afternoon.”

 

[rlphvac]

I like that and its a hell of a lot better to ask than to just call the police and the request is ligit the neighbors are used to shooting but it might excite some guests

 

[T-Test]

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[Grumpy]

I got asked what hand loaded ammo I use in my 270 win caliber rifles,
Ive found 58 grains of h4831 and a 150 grain speer bullet over a 215 fed primer in several 270 win chambered rifles to give excellent accuracy
under 1" 5 shot groups off a bench rest at 100 yards consistently, and about 2940 fps in my browning and sako rifles
while Ive only used it on mule deer its proven very lethal, even out at nearly 450 yards on one occasion
https://www.speer.com/bullets/rifle_...t/19-1605.html
some older reload manuals list 60 grains as max, I see no pressure signs but ,
58 grains is the max the case allows and still have the bullet seat to the correct depth.
Id start with 55 grains and work up just to be cautious,
and as always cross check at least three reload manuals


little changes like the brand of primer MATTER
have you ever had a rifle " hang fire"?
if you're not familiar with the term,
it's describing pulling the trigger/dropping the hammer on a cartridge so the firing pin strikes the primer but theres a noticeable delay in the ignition or the rifle firing.
now that delay might only be a small fraction of a second, but you'll damn sure notice the small delay between you pulling the trigger and the rifle firing.
I've had it happen once while at the range, with remington primers I used and once while hunting, both times it was with reloaded ammo,
that worked flawlessly most of the time ,
but I never had it happen before or since using FEDERAL PRIMERS
I normally use 215 FEDERAL PRIMERS, in my magnum rifles, never had any issues... but on this one elk hunt,
Id loaded up some 375 H&H ammo with Remington 9 1/2 mag primers as it was all I could locate at that time.
so Id purchased 300 at the local gunshop. and ordered a couple 1000 federal 215 primers that did not arrive until after I left on a hunt!
I was using a load of 75 grains of WW760 powder under a hornady 270 grain bullet.
in my SAKO that will shoot consistent 1.2" 100 yard 5 shot hundred yard groups,
and I use the rifle for hunting dark timber. where 100 yard shots are rare!
ITS A VERY EFFECTIVE COMBO.
they (different primer brands in loaded cartridges)
are rather easy to tell the difference as the Remington primers were gold in color while federal primers are silver in appearance.
the temperature was well below zero F at the time on the hunt the delay was maybe 1/3rd of a second,
just enough time to have you start to realize the gun did not fire... when it then did!
yes I still hit the intended target as it was an elk running through timber at about 45 yards,
but trust me when I say...having a rifle fire after a slight delay is a very noticeable thing to have happen.

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while this is NOT my 375 H&H sako carbine, in the picture posted above, My SAKO CARBINE is almost an exact clone except, that my stocks about 5 shades darker