I think S&W is overlooking a market nitch that should be filled

Grumpy

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.500_S&W_Special

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.500_S&W_Magnum
after shooting the 500 S&W mag revolvers for several months
the 500 S&W X-frame revolvers are really too large and heavy,
to be constantly and easily,used are a easily carried self protection handgun.
the basic issue is the huge heavy x-frame revolver and the 500 magnum being loaded to the cartridges full potential power
the 500 mag requires a long and heavy cylinder and frame,
the 500 S&W special could be built on a significantly lighter and smaller revolver of similar size and weight to the 480 ruger,
I would limit the pressure, the 500 SPECIAL cartridge too,
a significantly lower 48,000 psi like the 480 ruger.

thus still considerably more powerful than the 44 mag,
but still significantly less powerful and less recoil than the full power 500 MAG,
you obviously would still be using a significantly powerful handgun,
and due to the cartridge case diam,bullet diam. and weight,
most likely a 5 shot revolver ,but perhaps something closer in size,
to the old N-frame magnum revolver like a 5 shot version.

.500 S&W Special
Type
Handgun
Place of origin United States
Production history
Designer
Cor-Bon/Glaser
Designed 2004
Specifications
Parent case
500 S&W Magnum
Case type Semi-rimmed, straight
Case length 1.274 in (32.4 mm)
Overall length 1.733 in (44.0 mm)
Ballistic performance
Bullet mass/type
Velocity Energy
350 gr (23 g) FMJ 1,100 ft/s (340 m/s) 941 ft⋅lbf (1,276 J)
350 gr (23 g) JHP 1,250 ft/s (380 m/s) 1,215 ft⋅lbf (1,647 J)
Test barrel length: 8.375 in
Source(s): Cor-Bon[1]

The .500 S&W Special is a large high-powered revolver cartridge. It was designed and produced by Cor-Bon/Glaser (at Smith & Wesson’s request) in 2004.[2]


.500 S&W Magnum

Comparison of the popular .44 Magnum (left) to the .500 S&W cartridge (right)
Type Centerfire (.50 caliber)
Place of origin United States
Production history
Designer
Cor-Bon / Smith & Wesson
Designed 2003
Manufacturer Smith & Wesson
Produced 2003 - present
Specifications
Bullet diameter
.500 in (12.7 mm)
Neck diameter .526 in (13.4 mm)
Base diameter .526 in (13.4 mm)
Rim diameter .556 in (14.1 mm)
Rim thickness .056 in (1.4 mm)
Case length 1.625 in (41.3 mm)
Overall length 2.300 in (58.4 mm)
Rifling twist 1:18.75 in (476.25 mm)
Primer type Large pistol originally, now Large rifle
Maximum pressure 60,000 psi (410 MPa)
Ballistic performance
Bullet mass/type
Velocity Energy
300 gr (19 g) FTX Hornady 2,075 ft/s (632 m/s) 2,868 ft⋅lbf (3,888 J)
350 gr (23 g) XTP HP Underwood 1,912 ft/s (583 m/s) 2,842 ft⋅lbf (3,853 J)
400 gr (26 g) PTHP Winchester 1,800 ft/s (550 m/s) 2,877 ft⋅lbf (3,901 J)
440 gr (29 g) LFN-GC Buffalo Bore Heavy 1,625 ft/s (495 m/s) 2,579 ft⋅lbf (3,497 J)
500 gr (32 g) FP XTP Hornady 1,425 ft/s (434 m/s) 2,254 ft⋅lbf (3,056 J)

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...do-i-need-here-for-a-500-s-w-reloading.11917/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ing-a-handgun-for-hunting-hogs-deer-elk.1864/
 
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They are Huge Guns Grumpy.

Your a Big Tall Guy.
For you to say its too big well.
Be impossible to conceal carry hide in city of Chi.
 
Meh, i carry my desert eagle much more often than i thought using an OWB holster.
I'm planning on having the same holster maker roll one out for the 500 when i pick it up later this summer. :D

Down side is i need to loan him the firearm for a week. :(
 
Ive been shooting, and hand loading for my neighbors 500 S&W mag revolver rather frequently, and my own 445 DWSM
both are impressive, both provide all the power you might need to hunt any big game with proper hand loads ,
and theres zero question the 500 S&W is the more powerful handgun,but at some point more power is not gaining you much more than,
a bit more noise and recoil.
once you can punch through a large critter stem to stern easily , and the 320 grain hard cast 44 cal from a 445 DWSM,
and 440 grain 50 cal easily do that, your not lacking lethality
you certainly can't find either lacking in range or power, and the 500 being currently produced vs the DWSM,
being no longer in production certainly gives the 500 S&W certain advantages.
the easily interchanged and replaceable barrels on the 445 are also a great idea.
Its my impression the DWSM holds an advantage in longer range accuracy, (over 100 yards) but not by much.
and 71 year old vision, and iron sights is the limiting factor with both.

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44vs500rla.jpg

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...do-i-need-here-for-a-500-s-w-reloading.11917/

vrhl6.jpg

500555.jpg

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/445-dan-wesson-revolvers.1992/

 
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