I was recently asked what firearm I would select if I was a school safety..

Grumpy

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I was recently asked what firearm I would select if I was going to be a school safety officer?
keep in mind the goal here is to never have too use force and to avoid confrontations.
its those rare PEOPLE willing to harm others,

and not fire arms that are the cause of the occasional violence,
its people that you need to watch, If you want to maintain a safe environment,
ideally you keep a close eye on whats going on and contain and avoid having to deal with threats by recognizing
,isolating and controlling potential threats.
we don,t want security that thinks its job is too shoot terrorist , we need people in security that if
possible ,will identify and prevent potential violence
the very last thing you want to do is be forced into a confrontation where guns are needed,
but, if you are to maintain security you need to be ready too quickly and effectively ,protect the kids if thats required

the same basic idea most of us should have regarding our personal home security

(theres an old saying that an ounce of preventions worth a pound of cure!)

well logically if I had the job of protecting the kids in any school I would sure start from the basic idea , that Id do my best to prevent the problem from ever reaching the point that a firearm would be required, I'd want to install dozens of high quality video cameras,
all access points, parking lots, surrounding access roads, gates, internal hallways should be on constant video monitoring, and several large screen, high quality monitors in the guard room, with click/zoom/pan and record, cameras, and directional mics,
and having a good two directional, paging system, in key locations, and mount those cameras, and directional mics, where they were not easy too reach or disable, would be smart, Id want a secure guard room, with several large clear video, screens with a battery backed -up, and generator backed -up, video,security system, with wireless and copper communication links to the local police.
Id want at least two well trained officers on the school property at all times.
Id want the school to have carefully designed limited controlled pedestrian access and designed for very limited vehicle access, that could be opened and rapidly accessible, if required starting with several 7 foot tall non-easily climbed fences and gates.
Id require both officers have at least quarterly firearms qualification testing, both officers have basic trauma wound care training and on site medical supplies. both officers carry shoulder mount, audio, two way communications.
in and ideal world 10%-25% of the teachers at a school would also be carefully screened, then trained both firearms use and trauma care, and carry concealed.
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obviously the security people and carefully screened and well trained ,concealed carry armed teachers would be well aware of who each other are, and occasionally train as a team!
teachers choosing to carry concealed should receive some minor benefit's like a couple extra days a year paid vacation, and priority parking as an incentive!
given a personal choice of handgun,
Id select a CZ75 9mm long slide, as they are exceptionally accurate and if properly maintained very very,dependable.

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Id require both officers to be on site 1 hour before and after school hours , and at least one officer be watching the screens in a locked control room at all times, while the other walked and inspected the grounds, with check locations he had to check in with and dial a 6 digit random security code that changed daily with key pads all over the school.
yes Id want the guys to wear level 4 body armor , and carry an accurate side arm, and have on site access to carbines in a reasonable caliber (m1 carbine comes to mind)
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but thats not as important as extensive training, and (constant detailed and clear,video and audio, surveillance.)
if you can,t in real time identify a potential problem you can,t effectively,
react too it quickly and logically.
yeah all that would cost money, but its not unreasonable to keep your kids safer.

(too bad no ones yet found a way too tax stupidity , or political corruption)
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A world history lesson...lest we forget.

The quintessential reason why Grandpa carries a gun. Please take time to read this and pay particular attention to "A Little Gun History" about half way down. Why Carry a Gun? My old Grandpa said to me, "Son, there comes a time in every man's life when he stops bustin' knuckles and starts bustin' caps and usually it's when he becomes too old to take a whoopin'."
I don't carry a gun to kill people; I carry a gun to keep from being killed.
I don't carry a gun because I'm evil; I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the World.
I don't carry a gun because I hate the government; I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.
I don't carry a gun because I'm angry; I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.
I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone; I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.
I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man; I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.
I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate; I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.
I don't carry a gun because I love it; I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.

Police protection is an oxymoron: Free citizens must protect themselves because police do not protect you from crime; they just investigate the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess. Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take a whoopin'!

A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

PLEASE DON'T THINK FOR A MOMENT, THAT THIS COULDN'T HAPPEN IN OUR COUNTRY ALSO !!!

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control: From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control: From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938: From 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. -----------------------
China established gun control in 1935: From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Guatemala established gun control in 1964: From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970: From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Cambodia established gun control in 1956: From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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56 million defenseless people were rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control.
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You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens. With guns, we are 'citizens'; without them, we are 'subjects'. During WW II, the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!

Gun owners in the USA are the largest armed forces in the World!

If you value your freedom, please spread this anti-gun control message to all of your friends.

The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either.

SWITZERLAND ISSUES A GUN TO EVERY HOUSEHOLD!

SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT ISSUES AND TRAINS EVERY ADULT IN THE USE OF A RIFLE.

SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

IT'S A NO BRAINER! DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.

Dave
 
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