just a question to get you thinking for (GRINS)

[Grumpy]

yeah, I just got asked a similar question by a local guy who swears he saw a skunk ape last night , while fishing in the glades
he only had a 22 lr pistol and just took one look and got in his car and drove away
ok, lets assume your out deer hunting and its a typical early morning, or towards dark,
your walking to or maybe just reached your preferred hunt area.
or walking back to your car in the evening,
you hear a noise or see a movement in the near by brush,
your not the type of guy that shoots at sounds or movements
you wait & watch, and are rather amazed when you see,
BIGFOOT or THE BOGGY CREEK CREATURE or SKUNK APE ,
(WHAT EVER THE LOCAL NAME IS WALKING TOWARD YOU)
now my first thought would be,
what kind of certifiable idiot would dress in a monkey/ monster suit,
and go around trying to scare , potentially armed hunters or fishermen ,way out in the boondocks,??
unless he wanted to get blasted!!
now assuming this thing looks to be 7 ft tall and maybe 500 lbs,
and its not a bear, and it walks on two legs, what do you do?
personally I know Id be thinking I stumbled into a movie set!
(but thats mostly because I personally don't think the creature is anything but a myth)
but lets assume you think its a real monster?
do you shoot?, do you try to take pictures with your cell phone?
do you just back out and walk away?
and if it was a monster, and if you shoot it,
do you think you normally carry enough gun to kill it?
I generally hunt locally with a 45/70 marlin or 450 marlin caliber BLR using 405 grain hard cast bullets at near 1900 fps,
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45-50 grains of IMR3031 in my 450 marlins always has been lethal on elk.
and I know from shooting elk that nothing walking is going to shrug off,
several rapidly placed center mass hits if I did decide to shoot?
personally ID be really concerned ID be shooting some lunatics in a monster suit ,
and would be rather reluctant to shoot unless I really felt honestly threatened

YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS ABSURD QUESTION??

 

[rlphvac]

I know I sure wouldn't pull a 22 on it that would be like taking a knife to a gun fight

 

[T-Test]

Don't go into the woods at night!-- but if you do-- carry a. big gun and a small knife-- don't miss!!

 

[rlphvac]

Grumpy I caught your thing on Accurate molds and looked and they have both a 155gr. and a 165gr for the 10mm I like them both and shooting wise I like shooting both and I have an RCBS 170 gr. SWC mold what way would you go and I never had a brass mold I do have a couple aluminum ones and they seem to work what material would you get

 

[Grumpy]

Id stick with aluminum, or steel, bullet molds,
as brass in rare cases, can have issues with bullets or slag adhering to the surface, yeah, in rather rare cases.
alloys with over 4%-6% tin and brass molds don,t function well.
(that generally make very accurate , have consistent weight, and make great looking,
deep penetrating bullets that don't tend to easily shatter & deform excessively on impact)
also may be marginally more prone to stick, in the mold ,think about how you would solder brass /copper pipes etc.
yes a bit of mold release spray and not allowing the brass mold surface to get polished bright tends to lower risk,
but I know several guys with muzzle loader handgun , brass molds that managed to screw up the molds.
cast bullets, in 10mm are generally better , in that they give more consistent performance in the heavier 170-200 grain range
as the bore surface area /strength, that grips rifling is stronger,
have a second or even third lube groove, vs a single one on lighter bullet designs,
and some, molds with longer projectiles at marginally lower velocity,
are less prone to stripping that increases the bore leading,
and reduces accuracy, and general make for more consistent accuracy,
and physical stability and penetration once the projectile impacts is marginally superior.
a 135-155 grain jacketed bullet is ok for 10mm personnel defensive use.
but Id stick with the 165-210 grain hard cast for hunting, or targets

be aware many aftermarket 6" barrels have increased case head support and rifling designed to maximize cast bullet accuracy
yeah it might look a bit odd, but the greater case head support and added length allow far higher velocity
(50-100 fps and 100 plus ft lbs extra in a few cases)& frequently added accuracy

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typical 165grain

typical 200 grain

 

[Grumpy]

handguns have no-where close too larger hunting rifle cartridge energy, levels,
and many lack deep penetration.
they must rely totally on your skill making precise shot placement ,
that allows projectile to destroy critical vital organs like heart/lungs to be lethal,
handgun lethality tends to increase with deeper strait line penetration
matched to precise shot placement.
heavier hard cast bullets tend to maximize penetration potential.
a rifle like a 340wby or 375 H&H which I vastly prefer on many hunts has over 4000 ft lbs of muzzle energy
a 10mm pistol rarely reached 750 ft lbs, arrows have killed every game animal on earth ,
yet they rarely pack over 200 ft lbs,
with archery, like handguns its precise shot placement, that matters as to lethality,
and destroying vital organs that make them lethal.
I think the potential for an animal that could potentially hunt humans adds a bit of spice to any trip in the boonies
ID much prefer a larger magazine capacity and considerably greater punch,
example! (not a handgun but its a serious upgrade in defensive firepower)

having a 20 shot mag with a 308 loaded, carbine like the M1A,
with 165-180 grain bullets,
can be rather impressively lethal, in skilled/ experienced hands, if you shoot well.
or at least a ruger or browning 450 marlin caliber rifle , loaded with 4-6 cartridges,
loaded with 405 grain soft point bullets
I've never seen a well placed shot from a 45/70 or 450 marlin, caliber carbine,
loaded with 406 grain bullets fail to drop elk.

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the BLR with its front locking lug ,action, design is much stronger than the rear locking 45/70 marlin design.

700 ft lbs from a 10mm or maybe 2200 ft lbs from a 460-500 mag might seem impressive
but you have considerably more funch from a carbine in a rifle caliber.
it never hurts to be well armed ,observant of the surroundings, and keep your options open!