LT1 and a T56 in a 55 Chevy

Discussion in 'Engine: Repairs , Modifications ,trouble shooting ' started by 2Loose, Jan 26, 2013.

  1. 2Loose

    2Loose reliable source of info

    I've always wanted to do a Willys gasser style....
    Just never ran across a good starting point that was within my budget...
    and call it Willy's Willys....
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  2. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey Staff Member

    New projects are almost always exciting and interesting and you have the skills and experience to make that an exceptional car, I just hope you sit down and plan out what you intend to do and have detailed ideas and a matched budget, I hope that , your getting a damn good price, on that project car, and not paying top dollar!
    going into that project, as it might turn into a potentially , nearly bottomless money pit unless it is in better shape that it appears to be.
    yeah, been theres done that with a buddy, and while it eventually looked better and ran decent, it took him over 15 years and if his wife ever realized what he spent on the car, he will turn up missing with a picture on a milk carton, hes repeatedly told me it cost significantly more than his house did by the time he had a 871 super charger on a stroked hemi, lenco and 9" ford 4 link rear with a custom tube frame and front tilt fiberglass front end



    http://www.acautos.com/40-41-willys-coupe/

    http://www.fasttimesrods.com/product-galleries/1940-1941-willys-gassers/

    http://scottrodscustom.com/40-41willysgasser.html
     
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  3. 2Loose

    2Loose reliable source of info

    Sounds like a friend of mine and his 55 ford pickup. "Sure, let's do that too...."
    it got well into the six figure category by the time it was all done....
    But it's won a trophy at the Grand National Roadster Show,
    quite a few years ago....
    now he's afraid to drive it, it mostly sits in his garage....

    But I think I'm done once this '55 Sport Coupe is done....
    Couple of old HD's maybe still left in me, but that's about all...
     
  4. Loves302Chevy

    Loves302Chevy "One test is worth a thousand expert opinions."

    Me too. But that will never happen. Those cars are so BAD ASS.
     
  5. 2Loose

    2Loose reliable source of info

    And then there's illnesses and injuries that pop up in the middle of a project....
    And if you're married with kids, family stuff pops up that takes away money and time from the project....
    And if you put it all off until the kids are grown up, married and moved off somewhere with kids of their own,
    something will happen that they need your help, further delaying the project....

    Then if there are other old custom/classic cars already "completed" in your garage, invariably they
    will need a new transmission/motor/cooling system/rear end/something replaced, taking time/money away from the current project. As the rule is (at least for me and my buddies), keep the "finished" rigs running first, then tackle the new project !!!

    With my '58 pro street truck ("finished" in '98), my '55 4x4 truck ("finished" in 2000), and my '55 gasser ("finished" in 2009) all being enjoyed daily by me and my wife, they are like my children, always needing attention, the '58 has been eating v-belts (a new hi output alternator seems to put occasional heavy loads on the pulley, and the belt screeches...) and mildly overheating when under a load and in the middle of the day (pulling uphill with a load at noon, hey, I work that truck!), finally decided that the 18 year old BBC water pump was not doing it's job, so am in the middle of a replacement, with is involving cleaning/repainting various front end components I've pulled out (fan, fan shroud, alternator, PS pump, pulleys), and checking out the radiator while I'm in there. So the '55 Sport Coupe project gets delayed a bit longer......

    Plus I grow a special kind of tasty banana for sale at the local market, so always gotta tend to those chores...

    That's just life here on Willy's Farm....
    Willy

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  6. Loves302Chevy

    Loves302Chevy "One test is worth a thousand expert opinions."

    Both of those problems could be from that belt slipping. I don't know what you have for pulleys, but check the v-grooves.
    If they are worn and look more like a U instead of a V, then the pulleys are worn and need to be replaced.
    If you have unused grooves, maybe you can add a second belt.
     
  7. 2Loose

    2Loose reliable source of info

    Health issues and a couple of bad injuries have kept me away from this project for awhile.

    As my broken left arm heals and gets stronger, and feeling better, I'm starting to get back onto the '55 HT project...

    Lookin' at why the power steering pump is out of alignment, with this March Performance setup I bought...
    The pump sits about 1/8" too far forward....
    It sits just below the alternator, and closer to the motor in this pic...
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    These spacers, 0.316" thick, came with the March Performance LT1
    setup, but they are obviously too thick for this particular setup with
    these particular heads and block. Everything else seems to fit just fine
    now that I have the dampner problems sorted out....
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    I had a variety of allen head bolt length available to get
    a good fit with the proper spacers....

    Picked up a dozen ss flat washers, these are 0.050" thick....
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    Behind the idler rollers and bracket, is the bracket for the PS pump,
    that's where the spacers have to go to align the pump....
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    I started with two washers, 0.100" spacing, wasn't quite right,
    added another washer to each location, 0.150" now....
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    It looks good, don't think I can get it much closer....
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    These LT1 motors from the mid 90's were a bit of an odd duck, with the ignition (Optispark) mounted directly behind the water pump, and both driven directly off of the cam....

    If I have time, I might machine those thick spacers March supplied down to 0.150" and use those instead of the stacked flat washers....
    Aloha,
    Willy
     
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  8. Indycars

    Indycars Administrator Staff Member

    Good to see that you are back Willy. Keep the pics and posts coming and stay out of trouble now. ;)
     
  9. 2Loose

    2Loose reliable source of info

    Well, hand and arm injuries during the last 2 years continue to slow me down considerably !!
    Have tried to keep my personal web page up dated when I could....
    More pix, etc. here (Link)

    Time to hang the fuel tank and install the fuel system....

    Dug out the fuel tank, pump and other parts I've had
    in storage for some time now....
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    Using all Aeromotive parts for an intank efi style fuel pump system...
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    Glad to be back at it again....
    Aloha to all...
    Willy
     
  10. 2Loose

    2Loose reliable source of info

    Finally figured out how it was supposed to fit....
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    The front mount will fit in nicely with my sway bar frame mounts....
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    Some slight modification required here....
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    Another view....
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    This will be easy....
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    Gotta cut a 3-1/4" hole for the Aeromotive fuel pump and fuel well....
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    And will cut and fab a removable piece of the trunk floor over the fuel pump....
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    More Later....
    Willy
     
  11. 2Loose

    2Loose reliable source of info

    Got some more work done on the fuel tank....
    I trimmed the front support angle to get a better fit on the sway bar frame supports....
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    If I mount the fuel pump in the front of the tank, left side of the trunk floor is the easiest to cut an access hole for future removal and maintenance....
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    So I went ahead and cut the required 3-1/4" hole in the front left part of the tank....
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    Cleaned up and smoothed the rough edges of the new hole....
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    I propped the tank up so that corner was lowest to keep the mess mostly located right under the hole, and it vacuumed out nicely....
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    Aeromotive supplied a jig to drill the holes for the new fuel pump....
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    The idea was to drill two holes opposite each other, then keep it located with these two screws while drilling the rest of the holes...
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    However, my drill bit went 'south' on the second hole, so I'm going to have to resharpen this bit after each hole, or go buy a couple more bits....
    Probably will end up doing both....

    More Later...
    Aloha,
    Willy
     
  12. 2Loose

    2Loose reliable source of info

    Cleaned up the drilled holes for the fuel pump, inside and out....
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    Used the shop vac to suck out all the debris....
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    Put the inside ring with the screws in place,,,,
    had to file some of the holes to get a good fit....
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    The nuts are removed after the inside ring is pulled into position...
    It is a tight enough fit that it stayed in place....

    The front of the tank is 9-1/2" deep (28 gallon tank)...
    so the foam is cut to 10-1/2"....
    The tank tapers to 9" deep in the rear....
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    And stuffed down in the tank and massaged back into shape and into position

    Then the foam gasket is put on top....
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    The pump assembly is also assembled to match the 9-1/2" depth...
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    Had to readjust the foam fuel well a couple of times to get it right....
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    I think it's good to go....
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    Now to work up some front mounting brackets....
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    Aloha,
    Willy
     
  13. 2Loose

    2Loose reliable source of info

    Rolled the chassis out from under the body,
    easier to work on the fuel system....

    Loosened up the bolts in back, jacked up the front to cut some more
    metal off the front brackets on the tank for a better fit....
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    While it was up, got in there and ground off paint, cleaned up weld areas....
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    AND fitted a piece of 3/16 to weld on as a bracket on each side..
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    Both sides welded on, tacked on while
    clamped to the fuel tank to keep then located...

    Man, this SS was the toughest stuff to drill I've ever run across....
    Using Ace's best bits, I went through 8- 1/4" bits, and 4- 3/8" bits
    and that was with a drilling lube and running slow speed, and resharpening
    bits with a "Drill Doctor"....
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    Using cad plated 3/8" bolts, 3/4" long, with flat washers, cad plated, both sides,
    a lock washer and a regular nut.
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    Will pull it out to paint the recent welds,
    and I want to coat the welds on this SS tank....
     
  14. 2Loose

    2Loose reliable source of info

    Since I painted the frame with Rustoleum
    Black Hammer Tone, decided to do the tank
    with the same....
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    It took two coats plus a little bit here and there, but it looks good to go....
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    Just for grins, my shop space,
    It's the OD Racing Team....
    (Old Dudes....)
    Three of us share this shop space, it used to be a flower packing shed, they shipped all over the world from here, but the owner passed away, and nobody was interested in taking over the flower bizz, so us car guys turned it into a custom fab shop....
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    More Later
    Willy
     
  15. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey Staff Member

    thanks for posting the update and pictures!
     
  16. Indycars

    Indycars Administrator Staff Member

    Great pics .... thanks!

    Why do big of a gas tank, 28 gallons seems really larger? Is it that far around the island? :rolleyes:
     
  17. 2Loose

    2Loose reliable source of info

    I was over to Orange County, CA for the annual "Cruisin' For A Cure" car show and cruise at the Orange County Fairgrounds (Prostate Cancer fund raiser and you can also get med checked for prostate problems) and saw the Williams Classic Chassis Works display. Later went and visited their shop, got talked into this larger tank, as the plan is to ship this car to the mainland and use it for long cruises, since that motor dyno'ed at over 500 hp, I suspect it will be a somewhat thirsty beast....
    Just might be really glad I have a tank that big....

    Looking at the tires, and not happy....
    They've been in storage for, what, 5 years or more??

    The front left tire....
    Do you see anything??
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    Here, I marked it with tape...
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    A close up....
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    I sure don't want to drive around on a tire like this....

    Had some glaspaks from some past project,
    stuck 'em in there to see how they looked...
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    More Later....
     
  18. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey Staff Member

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