making a reasonable/logical choice and living with your decisions

Discussion in 'Cams, Heads and Valve Trains' started by Grumpy, Apr 17, 2019 at 10:47 AM.

  1. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

    I got into a rather long and detailed discussion with one of the local guys ,
    concerning both the car he owns and the engine he wants to build,
    and if you come down to the basics, budget and time frames, and the end result.
    many people subconsciously think and fail to question,
    the idea,that they are stuck modifying the car,
    they currently own, and modifying the basic engine the car came with...
    if thats not the car your dreaming of owning, thats obviously not the route to take,
    it makes no sense to put time and a great deal of money into a car you really don,t want to own.:rolleyes:
    one of his major concerns , was that every time hes thinking hes found the best engine combo,
    he reads some magazine article promoting a different improved cylinder head,
    intake or engine, that makes his previous combo look pathetic.
    every time he goes to a car show, or the local swap meet,
    or the local race track, he sees several very impressive cars, all different, yet all impressive.
    it may take you decades on a limited budget,
    but set a goal, make a list of what you want as a completed project,
    and stick to the goal.
    know what you want!
    and don,t jump on any parts or project unless its exactly what you want at a good price.

    now very few people have the cash flow to just start buying cars,
    tools,and performance parts,as fast as most of us wish we could ,
    and pure physics your budget and a place too work on the car, will limit your choices.
    if you want a fast car, you want to consider a lighter weight project car,
    and a reasonably large displacement and reasonably high compression.
    I ask him , if cash was not an issue what car would you own?

    he currently owns a rusted out auto transmission 4 cylinder powered,1975 monza he hates,
    his dream is to own a 1967 corvette, with a serious big block engine 4 speed and side exhaust.
    he has a 454 BBC engine from a 1974 corvette (thats the 270 hp oval port version)
    obviously he needs to find a 1965-1967 corvette project car, if hes ever to proceed.
    very few of us would not like to own a classic corvette
    if youve priced, a 1965- 1967 corvettes in anything like decent condition, you know that they are not cheap.
    but if you want something badly theres usually a route to take to get there.
    (UN-fortunately none of them are dirt cheap)
    hes in his early 30s but single so if hes got a decent job or willing to improve his marketable skills his goal is not-un-obtainable.
    I strongly suggested he join several local corvette clubs and start making contacts,
    theres always guys getting divorced, loosing jobs, having kids ,
    and moving out of state with half finished project cars they are forced to unload,
    at a significant price reduction, on short notice,
    the key is knowing about their project availability, and sale,
    and having a decent checking account balance available, at a moments notice,
    to make a legit offer on the spot!
    (it also helps to own a truck and car trailer or know a good buddy that has them)
    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...u-really-can-use-a-car-transport-trailer.845/



    http://customimagecorvettes.com/product-category/c2-corvette/complete-body-c2-corvette/

    https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-1967-Chevrolet-Corvette-c409

    https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars-for-sale/1967-chevrolet-corvette-for-sale

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    Last edited: Apr 18, 2019 at 8:31 AM
  2. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Talk him into a C4 Corvette Grumpy.
    Take him for a quick ride.

    Unless you have $50 k at least your not going to own a Nice clean 1967 C2.
     
  3. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Add another $20-30k more if it's an original BBC Corvette.
     
  4. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    The Monza as is will be popular with Drag Racers that like Street Outlaws.
    As long as does not look like it was pulled out of the Ocean 50 years later.
    Sell pretty easy.
     
  5. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    My old Neighbor Mike had a 1975 Monza.
    Home built chassis.
    Used a 1957 Pontiac 9.3 diff narrowed.
    SBC poweted.
    It was the fastest car local for 20 years.
    Nothing street legal on car but he still drove at night and raced it on the streets.
    Not even working headlights .
    Suicide.
     
  6. T-Test

    T-Test reliable source of info

    If he owns a 4 cylinder Monza, he will never have enough money to fix what he wants.

    Dreaming!!
     
  7. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

    not necessarily , he drives that 40 plus year old monza even though he detests it,
    to save every dime he can, like he says,
    " I put gas and oil in it,
    it hauls my butt around ,
    and thats about all I bought it for."
    my cousin owned the car before he bought it,
    the body has rust issues but its mechanically dependable transportation.
    the guy has a decent home thats easily worth 500k, so hes not dirt poor ,
    I don,t know for sure but I think he operates heavy construction equipment like cranes and front loaders, as his current job.
     
  8. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Not sure in Florida but here in Illinois a Heavy Equipment Operator is a UAW Union Job. Pays $32- 80 per hour in Chicago and areas around.

    Tell him to go to the bank and State I want $100 K for a Big Block 1967 Roadster Corvette.
     
  9. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

    In florida I doubt hes making more than $35 and hour tops
     
  10. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    He is making decent money.
    Unless cost of living is real high.

    Not many guys driving a Chevy Monza daily.
    None here that I know of.
     

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