Need Help With Winchester '97

Discussion in 'shotgun related' started by LEJ ZO6, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. LEJ ZO6

    LEJ ZO6 Member

    I have a 16Ga. Winchester Model 97 pump. The barrel has been chopped off to 24".

    I have a new 30" barrel and I think I would like to install it on this gun. Is this something I can do myself or would I have to take it to a gunsmith ? I am mechanically inclined, have about any tool you could want and have built and raced cars all my life. I have had very little experience working on firearms.

    Suggestions ?
     
  2. grumpyvette

    grumpyvette Administrator Staff Member

  3. LEJ ZO6

    LEJ ZO6 Member

    I tried searching for this information before I posted but didn't find what I needed. Thanks for the pointers.

    It sounds like I should be able to tackle that myself.

    I'll put this on my "To Do" list. I'm in the middle of remodeling my office right now so I may not get to this project right away. Typically, anything that should take 10 mins. usually takes an hour or more. I'll post again after I give this a try.

    Thanks
     
  4. LEJ ZO6

    LEJ ZO6 Member

    Well, I finally got back around to this project.

    I followed the instructions you sent and was able to remove the barrel assembly easily.

    Now it looks like I need to remove the "extension". I find an "Adjusting sleeve lock screw", an "Adjusting sleeve lock", "Adjusting sleeve" and an "Extension" in the parts blow-up.

    I have removed the adjusting sleeve lock screw but don't know how to proceed from here. The adjusting sleeve lock looks like it should come out but I can't remove it with my fingers and I didn't know if I should try to pry it out or dislocate it with a punch. I don't want to mar or break anything.

    Any suggestions on how to proceed ?
     
  5. grumpyvette

    grumpyvette Administrator Staff Member

    ID try soaking it in a several drops of a 50%/50% mix of marvel mystery oil and liquid wrench and heating/cooling it a bit with a hair dryer several times then lightly tapping it with brass drift punch, chances are good its either lightly rusted or coated with crud

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    http://www.rucascowboys.com/win97partslist.htm
     
  6. LEJ ZO6

    LEJ ZO6 Member

    O.K.

    I finally got back to this project but it looks like I need a lot of hand holding.

    I soaked the breech end of the barrel assembly in penetrating oil and I could remove the Adjusting Sleeve Lock Screw and the Adjusting Sleeve Lock easily. I was then able to unscrew and remove the Adjusting Sleeve.

    Now I'm stuck again. From the parts blowup it appears that the barrel Extension (Part #5 in parts blowup) should unscrew from the Barrel (Part #1 in parts blowup). Well, if it does it is on there really tight. I can't unscrew it by hand. I used some wooden pads and clamped the Barrel in my vice, used another chunk of wood and hit it with a hammer trying to unscrew the Extension. Nothing moved. I'm not really sure that is how the Barrel and Extension come apart and I don't want to mar anything.

    What do I need to do to remove the Extension from the Barrel ?

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  7. grumpyvette

    grumpyvette Administrator Staff Member

    Id try


    http://loctitefreezeandrelease.com/

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    Id try soaking it in a 50% / 50% mix of MARVEL MYSTERY OIL AND ACETONE AS A SOLVENT/PENETRATING OIL for a few hours then giving it a few whacks with a plastic hammer a few times while letting it soak over night then use the freeze spray on the inner barrel as it should shrink enough as it contracts due to the rapid cooling to get loose


    two strap wrenches and a plastic mallet might help
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  8. LEJ ZO6

    LEJ ZO6 Member

    Am I correct in assuming these parts screw together ?
     
  9. mathd

    mathd solid fixture here in the forum

    Well,
    I am not a gunsmith but i happen to work with them sometime.
    My advice is to bring it to a gunshop since they have the tools required.
    You may need to have the barrel indexed, and the headspace checked(too loose and the case will split in the chamber.. too tight is also bad).
     
  10. grumpyvette

    grumpyvette Administrator Staff Member

    they do on most models , the advice to have a gunsmith look at it if its not easy to dis-assemble is valid, you don,t want to screw it up
     
  11. LEJ ZO6

    LEJ ZO6 Member

    Thanks, I still haven't had any luck getting it apart, even after following your recommendations.

    I'll throw it in the truck and stop by the gun shop next chance I get.
     

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