oil filters & related info

[grumpyvette]

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/index.html

http://www.synlube.com/oilfilters.htm

http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilte ... lters.html

http://www.precisionenginetech.com/tech ... s-exposed/

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/Mot ... _Guide.pdf

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=10380&p=42887#p42887

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=1396&p=3221&hilit=+switch#p3221

viewtopic.php?f=87&t=11043&p=48999#p48999

http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/index.asp

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Fi ... OilFilters

https://www.amsoil.com/bypassfilters/in ... _BP252.pdf

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... ntent;col1

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_q ... n21310401/

http://www.knfilters.com/oilfilter.htm

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=120&hilit=+magnets

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=52

http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilte ... study.html

Id also point out that swapping to a 7-8 quart oil pan significantly increases the surface heat transfer area and in my experience that significant reduces oil temps all by itself.
Id also point out that adding an auxiliary oil cooler with electric fan ,mated with larger AN#10 oil line size,and use of the longer higher capacity oil filter(s) to any corvette (STOCK OR BIG BLOCK ENGINE SWAP) adds effective oil flow volume to the engine, this can be a HUGE advantage when theres limited room due to ground clearance or header clearance issues that limits the size of the oil pan itself that can be used.
http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/ ... Part=51061
this is a good value in a chevy gen 1 sbc and BBC v8 oil filter

keep in mind oil accumulates soot and acids over time, and even the fine black soot , most filters won,t strain out causes wear, so oil needs to be changed, even if its well filtered
THERE'S SOME BIG DIFFERENCES in BOTH construction and quality in oil filters, some have well under 200 square inches of filter surface, some over 450 sq inches
http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilte ... ml#measure

most quality filter have a minimum of 300 sq inches of filter medium and an anti-drain back valve, look for those features in the links


Anti-Drain Back Valves, are a plastic/or rubber baffle that prevents reverse directional flow of oil thru the filter, this tends to speed up the oil flow to the bearings on cold starts because the oil passages in the block will be full rather than needing the pump to re-fill them first, it usually consists of an easily flexible circular lip of plastic that is placed under the outer feed holes that bends out of the way to allow normal directional flow with negligible resistance but flops over and closes off those feed holes if oil tries to flow in the reverse direction thru the filter

BTW if you have a sudden drop in oil pressure on any engine with no other symptoms, you might want to replace the oil filter and check oil levels before you panic as its not uncommon for some brands of oil filters to fail internally

less than ideal filters

http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilte ... html#avoid

IVE always preferred the BYE_PASS versions as I felt dirty oil is preferable to NO OIL,which is what you get if the filter gets clogged with assembly lube or blows a seal ring with the non-bypass versions and not wanting to wait for the engine to reach operational temperatures which while not truly mandatory with a non- bypass adapter its a good idea to at least allow the oil to get warm before driving to keep the filters from excessive pressures

bypass style
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SES-3-60-08-900/

non-bypass style

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CTR-22-570/

remote filter style
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MOR-23683/

obviously these won,t fit all chevy applications but if you have the room for the longer, spin on filters

The "longer high capacity oil filter" Purolator is L40084.

"longer high capacity oil filter" N.A.P.A: # 1794

"longer high capacity oil filter" ACDelco: PF932

http://www.cantonracingproducts.com/cgi ... key=25-106

http://www.advanceadapters.com/category ... +Kits.html

http://www.hrpworld.com/googlebase.cfm? ... on=product

yes there are CLEAN AND RE-USE OIL FILTERS, and in line oil filters for oil coolers
http://fuelecosystems.com/pdfs/autlolighttruckprice.pdf


http://www.obergfilters.com/main.html

if youve ever wanted to keep a close eye on your engines heath and have a better chance of finding and fixing potential problems BEFORE they get really expensive, it takes close inspection, now cutting your oil filters open will give you a good deal of info, but there ARE oil analysis kits available that you use to take a sample of your oil and send it in for chemical analyisis for a detailed look at what condition your engine may be in!

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-900510/?rtype=10

heres a helpful diagnostic tool,(the oil filter cutter pictured below) and yes I still cut open the oil filters and inspect the filter element on my cars oil filter

proper magnets trap metallic debris
SmCo Samarium Cobalt Disc Magnets
http://www.magnet4less.com/

Samarium Cobalt MAGNETS HELP
http://www.magnet4sale.com/smco-disk-magnet-dia-1x1-4-samarium-cobalt-magnets-608-f-temperature/
magnets are ceramic and glass hard, don,t try to drill or grind them, as they can shatter

if you don,t think a proper magnet can trap/hold and prevent metallic debris from getting into the oil pump and bearings , look at this picture of an oil pan magnet I found posted

Model# SMCO-D8
Samarium Cobalt Magnets 3/4 in x 1/4 in Disc
Suitable for high temperature applications

Wholesale Price Range:
$2.99


://www.blackstone-labs.com/free-test-kits.php

http://www.amazon.com/Wix-24077-Oil-Ana ... B000CSEUQ0

http://www.oaitesting.com/g2047.pdf

what the results might mean

http://www.v8sho.com/SHO/InterpretingOilAnalysis.htm

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/Mot ... _Guide.pdf

related threads

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viewtopic.php?f=54&t=2080&p=5568&hilit=+filters+using#p5568

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=2727&p=7078&hilit=+filters+using#p7078

they still sell these and you could modify them or use as designed

Amazon.com

Mesa Performance..Cool Collar Test Data

Mesa Performance..Oil Coolers

this lower designs what Ive used for decades

 

[grumpyvette]

the QUALITY BRANDS OF longer and larger diam oil filters with the larger filter surface area have less total pressure per square inch resisting internal flow and also tend to clog up at a slower rate making their use generally a better idea than the smaller size filters, obviously its both the total surface area and how restrictive the filter medium is or how well it filters and the size of the holes that will effect both the flow and the filtration, but in almost every application a longer filter with a larger surface area hold a distinct advantage (read thru the sub links early in the thread) one other advantage is the larger capacity oil filters tend to allow the oil in the filter as it flows thru to dissipate some engine heat to air passing over the filters surface

BTW I DON,T KNOW WHO SELLS THESE BUT IVE GOT TWO ON MY CORVETTES OIL FILTERS AND THEY EASILY REDUCE OIL TEMPS 7-15 DEGREES the ones I have are about 6" long and fit about 90% of the diam of the filter

longer length oil filters with significantly more pleets and synthetic mediums have significantly lower resistance to oil flow reducing pumping losses slightly, but a couple horse power gained here and faster oil flow helps durability, and cooling of the bearings and valve train

read this thread
http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/oil-system-mods-that-help.2187/

Ive used the extended length WIX filters for decades with good results
you generally have to look up the number or ask the parts counter guys,
to look up the longer length version filter numbers,
but Ive always felt it was worth the time to get the longer filter,
and minimal extra cost to use them
Id also suggest you install a long higher capacity oil filter if you have the clearance to do so, as both the extra oil capacity and the fact that the larger oil filter with its greater surface area constantly exposed to outside air flow, (especially if you have an oil filter finned cooler) can in many cases reduce oil temps 5 degrees or more

clip on a decent magnet to the base of a long oil filter helps it trap metalic trash more effectively, and while $29 may sound high its good extra insurance that potentially reduces the chances of metalic debis from getting to the bearings and valve train.
consider the cost of bearing replacement?

http://www.magnet4sale.com/n42-3od-x-1id-x-1-2-neodymium-rare-earth-ring-magnet/

LSI/LS6 OIL ROUTING THRU BLOCK

while tall high capacity oil filters may not be the normal choice or fit in many applications they are a great way to increase engine durability where they can be used, but its a good idea to keep the filter length less than the oil pan sump depth to reduce the chances of loosing a filter to a speed bump or road trash damage

Purolator number is 4631
(Fram PH8A or Wix 51515

related info
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=252&p=568&hilit=remote+filters#p568

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=3144

http://www.firebirdnation.com/pdf/dualoil.pdf

DUAL REMOTE MOUNT OIL FILTERS CAN MAKE EXTRA FILTRATION FAR EASIER TO INSTALL



WIX - Oil Filter
Part Number: 51061
Line: WIX

1 year limited warranty
UPC: 765809510616

Detailed Description

Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 5.178 in.
Outside Diameter (Top): 3.66 in.
Micron Rating: 19
Thread Size: 13/16-16
By-Pass Valve Setting (PSI): None
Beta Ratio: 2/20=11/27
Burst Pressure (PSI): 285
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM

Gasket Diameters

Outside Diameter: 3.444 in.
Inside Diameter: 3.1 in.
Thickness: 0.26 in.




PF35 (Wix 51061) filter..

NAPA/Wix 1459/51459

NAPA Gold filter you want is the 51061.
PARTS DETAIL
Principal Application: Chevrolet and GMC Trucks (63-90) - (Two Quart Version is 51794)
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 5.178
Outer Diameter Top: 3.660
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 13/16-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Beta Ratio: 2/20=11/27
Burst Pressure-PSI: 285
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21

PARTS DETAIL
Principal Application: Chevrolet and GMC Trucks (73-93)
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 7.822
Outer Diameter Top: 3.674
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 13/16-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Burst Pressure-PSI: 270
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21

 

[Grumpy]

Its always rather amazing to me when I find guys who have for decades been forced to temporarily remove some component like the headers to allow access to remove an oil filter during and oil change when theres been the readily available option to mount a remote mount single or dual oil filter in a far easier ro access location, and the obvious option of adding an oil cooler or dual flow oil cooler and transmission fluid cooler.
I might sound rather odd, but its not that unusually to find that a high volume baffled oil pan with and extended sump plus the addition of a decent set of headers makes accessing the oil filter nearly impossible,
both the oil pan manufacture and the header manufacturer without doubt worked with a stock engine, oil pan and exhaust when design work and test installations were done, mock-ups showed zero problems, but combine the two aftermarket components and its far from unusually that oil filter access is nearly non-existent or only the shortest oil filter made for your application can be installed,

when clearances allow longer length, quality oil filters provide significantly larger surface area, this tends to both reduce pressure drop,
and increase the useful filtration time before the filter tends to partially clog due to trapped debris,
yes they still require frequent replacement but they tend to do a better job, over the same time frame.
one question that always comes up, is the ideal, size and length of the fluid transmission lines required,
too feed and return hot oil from remote mounted oil coolers and transmission fluid coolers, the simple answer, visit a local professional hydraulic supply shop after taking careful measurements and verifying the type of fittings, thread types used etc.
I would strongly suggest you select, and ask too have fabricated,
(after taking careful measurements and verifying the connection fitting type and threads etc.) high temp ,high pressure ,lines, AN#8-1/2" lines designed to handle 250F temps and 350 PSI. MINIMUM

keep in mind most performance cars with an auto transmission and a higher rpm stall converter, will need an auxiliary trans fluid cooler, Id strongly suggest you find one with an electric fan and 1/2" or AN#8 line size as you'll want to allow a minimum of 2 -3 gallons a minute trans fluid flow rate.
engine oil coolers , TRANSMISSION FLUID COOLERS and remote mounted engine oil coolers with remote filters, also benefit from use of a MINIMUM of a AN#8/1/2" inside diameter fluid transmission line .


Up to 250 GPH =4.2 GPM= 1/2" or -08 AN
nearly ideal for transmission and oil coolers
*
Up to 450 GPH =7.5 GPM= 5/8" or -10 AN
*
Up to 900 GPH = 15GPM 3/4"or -12 AN

keep in mind oil does almost all the initial engine cooling so adding a larger efficient oil cooler with a fan
, and as large an oil pan as clearances allow goes a long way toward reducing engine temps,
you certainly will see a difference if a properly sized and installed oil cooler is used.

you don,t need something this large in most cases
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/flx-700040

something like this makes a noticeable improvement
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/der-15800

remember to accurately measure the area you intend to install any oil cooler,
and leave lots of room for the connecting high pressure oil feed & return lines and access to connect them.

thus the need for oil filter adapters and filter relocation options

Gen V/VI oil filter pad contains two bypass valves, one for the oil filter (A) and one for the oil cooler (B). The filter adapter, which is nothing more than a threaded fitting to mount the filter, has been removed in this photo to show the recessed oil cooler bypass valve. Oil cooler fittings thread into the cooler outlets (C) to the oil cooler and the return (D) from the cooler. If you are not using an oil cooler, you should remove the cooler bypass valve (B) and plug the cooler line holes (C and D) with 1/4-inch NPT pipe plugs. The bypass valves are a light press fit in the block and may be removed by threading a long 3/8-16 bolt into the valve and wiggling it free, which usually damages the valve. That’s okay, because replacement valves are inexpensive and you want to replace the old one with a new bypass valve (GMPP PN 25013759). Note that Gen V/VI rear main caps require an O-ring that fits in a recess in the block (E) to seal oil delivery from the pump.
Read more: http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/cc ... z2RyXV6xCI

big block vs small block chevy oil pump

a little careful meassuring and thinking things through, and some careful shopping for adapters will generally allow you to relocate the oil filter and use a significantly longer and/or larger oil filter than could originally be installed, thus reducing the restriction to oil flow by significantly increasing the area of the filter medium surface,and adding a couple magnets to the installation will generally help trap metallic debris
Samarium Cobalt MAGNETS HELP
http://www.magnet4sale.com/smco-disk-magnet-dia-1x1-4-samarium-cobalt-magnets-608-f-temperature/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/oil-system-mods-that-help.2187/
SmCo Samarium Cobalt Disc Magnets
http://www.magnet4less.com/

http://www.magnet4less.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_27&products_id=254

http://www.magnet4sale.com/samarium-cobalt-discs/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/whats-a-windage-tray-do.64/
http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/oil-system-mods-that-help.2187/
High Temp Samarium SmCo Cobalt Magnet Discs
572°F Maximum Operating Temperature