Piston-connecting rod stiff

DorianL

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I got a buddy in Kenya rebuilding his SBC. He got his stock pistons/connecting rods back from machine shop with pins pressed in. Only one assemblies moves freely - the others are kinda sticky. The connecting pistons do not fall over when you hold the connecting rod upright. Is that a problem?

Thanks few him!

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unfortunately its COMMON because the piston pins on pressed pin pistons are normally EITHER forced into the piston with a hydraulic press and that can distort both the rod and piston, OR the rods heated, too expand the small rod pin bore in the connecting rod and if its heated the pin surface is frequently micro damaged , and theres commonly minor surface damage done to the piston pin bores, have him soak the piston/rod assembly in a 5w30 machine oil for 30 minutes ( I just use MARVEL MYSTERY OIL) in a 2 lb plastic coffee container, as I always have a few empty's
TRY spraying the piston pin area with a good penetrating oil, and working the rods back and forth, if it does not correct in a minute or so with penetrating oil,its a problem, take them back and have the machine shop correct their mistake, even pressed pin pistons should flop back and forth just by moving the rod back and forth, somethings binding, pressed pins are locked in the rods but should rotate easily in the piston pin bore

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then take each out and work them back and forth and see if they free up.(they should) as the aluminum tends to wear in rapidly, now this is one reason I almost always suggest using bushed connecting rods and polished quality ,full floating piston pins and retainer rings
Assuming components were correctly assembled ,obviously the stiffness is not a huge issue on a common street transportation engine as millions of engines are assembled like that as its far cheaper to do so than use full floating pins and pin locks in commercially assembled street engines as the pins rapidly loosen enough for engine oil to seep in and lubricate the rocking pin in the piston pin bore.let me say this,
Ive build close to 180 engines or more MINIMUM now over 44 plus years (I lost count) (thats only about 4-5 a year)and I use the local machine shop to instal pressed in pins or I talk the guys into free float piston designs and I OWN a 12 ton press and several torches, simply because its a P.I.T.A. to fix if you screw it up,and cheap to have done, and to do the job correctly you NEED A ROD FURNACE DESIGNED FOR THE JOB
now obviously I could buy a rod heater and have the tool, but just using the far stronger aftermarket connecting rods and free float pistons makes far more sense to me, than screwing around with weaker rods and harder to assemble pistons

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Now why did you have to use that picture of rods???

Those look so goooooood, I might have to paint my rods now! :D
 
I used it to show the brass lined pin bores, and don,t bother painting or powder coating your rods it hides surface flaws, and no one can see the rods once the engines assembled, now you can polish the rod surface but make sure all polishing micro scratches are LENGTH WISE on the rod surface
 
grumpyvette said:
I used it to show the brass lined pin bores, and don,t bother painting or powder coating your rods it hides surface flaws, and no one can see the rods once the engines assembled, now you can polish the rod surface but make sure all polishing micro scratches are LENGTH WISE on the rod surface
Now did you really think I was serious ??? ;)

I would never paint the rods, too much extra weight! :cool:
 
you never know what someone else is might be thinking so I try to answer most questions as SERIOUS until Im sure otherwise, simply because a great many people might read this over several years time.
 
DorianL said:
Ummmm, I think you would...

I'm hurt that you could think such a thing! :cry: I cut corners all the time when cleaning the house! :lol:


Ummm, but why are those rods powdercoated black????

Probably Grumpy's, but he just didn't want to admit it. It was before he got as smart as he is today!
 
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