Piston Costs to Buy New

Discussion in 'Rotating Assemblies' started by Maniacmechanic1, Feb 9, 2019.

  1. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Starting a new thread on popular V8 Engines to overhaul and rebuild stock, Street Performance, & Full Drag Race Use and pistons for them.
    I have noticed lately on many sites & FB the guys lack money $.
    All Been there.

    Its real risky running any engine with unknown history as is & just swapping in a Cam.
    Most of the time the engine will fail & blow up.

    Going to mainly look at pricing 1st.
     
  2. Maniacmechanic1

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  3. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    So the list is for a 454 BBC with stock length connecting rods & a 4.00" crank stroke.
    Really no inexpensive options with an .030" inch overbore required on 99% original engine cores found & usable.

    The Keith Black Hyperunetics are the lowest cost but also the most feared piston to use by many Hotrodders. They don't get the top end ring gap right and the rings butt together & the piston top blows off & the engine blows up.
    Many unconfirmed reports online they hold up to 800 HP just fine in a Big Chevy & Pontiac 455.
    But Risk we try & eliminate her on Grumps.

    So down the line.....Have Sealed Power Forged..Old TRW power forged pistons with graphite coated skirts....$511.00.

    If I was to pick a set of Forged & want to keep cost down the ICON 2618 Pistons look very good.

    No such thing as a Budget BBC We can see that right away.
    Going to Need $$$$.
     
  4. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Alright.
    We are going to skip over the popular 383 SBC.
    Reason being to build it Grumpy's way you will need $10k cash for sure.
    Plan on top dollar parts for it.
     
  5. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

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    Poor Man make that 350 Chevy car engine with stock iron heads run again.
     
  6. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

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    Poor man 350 Chevy Pistons stock iron heads again.
    Bit better pistons. Silvolite.
     
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    Good Street performance piston set for a 350 Chevy.
     
  9. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

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    Pick up another 7-8 Horsepower with the modern thin 1/16" top & 2nd ring package.
     
  10. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    We are going to skip over all the 350 Chevy Forged pistons.
    Just go 383 Stroker or 400 SBC....Going to need $10,000-$18,000 for 500 + HP.
    It all adds up to that.
    Budget does not exist with SBC no longer.

    Work on other Engine Family's. Pontiac V8 & Olds V8.
    We are going to skip over Cadillac V8....Low revving engine & I do not trust it for High RPM use any.
     
  11. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

    stop by several local machine shops and ask questions,
    buy a half dozen reference books and yeah youll need a few basic tools
    many of the older shops will provide rather economically priced ,
    cast of FORGED pistons from shelf stock, if you have the block machine work done by them.
    pistons that currently list for $700 plus can be had on a package deal for hundreds less.
    finding a reliable and skilled machinist you can trust and ask for guidance is a critical step in your first few engine builds.
    you can also frequently get a better price if you purchase the complete balanced forged, rotating assembly from SCAT or a trusted vendor.
    a few shops will give you a few bucks back on O.E.M cranks and rod cores


    related threads
    (try to read the sub-links thats where most info is)

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ing-parts-and-a-logical-plan.7722/#post-85144

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-system-mods-that-help.2187/page-2#post-77851

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/finding-a-machine-shop.321/#post-59253

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...on-ring-info-youll-need.509/page-2#post-77252

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...g-with-a-local-machine-shop.14419/#post-74383

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...oo-deal-with-a-machine-shop.14454/#post-75062

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/think-thru-your-goals.10606/#post-73288

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ing-parts-and-a-logical-plan.7722/#post-72126

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ting-started-in-the-car-hobby.339/#post-60236

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ore-clearance-on-your-block.14251/#post-72471

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/precision-measuring-tools.1390/#post-68850

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...market-4340-connecting-rods.13321/#post-72047

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...in-height-compression-height.5064/#post-69254

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/forged-or-not.13226/#post-69018
     
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2019
  12. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    This thread is for all the guys Low Bucks Grumpy.
    Opposite of what has been done here for years.
    Using stock production crank, stock connecting rods the engine was built with, stock engine block, stock cast iron cylinder heads.
    It represents 99 % of the guys out there today.

    Very few actually can dish out $10-$30K instant.
    Maybe in 5-25 years.
    By then most have lost interest. Cars sold off unfinished. They got old & died literally.

    Total opposite of your way all brand new & nothing OEM Chevy left.
     
  13. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Looking to build a Low Buck Running engine all rebuilt with just $2,000 .
     
  14. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

    yes you can rarely find screaming low cost deals on 1/2 completed projects,
    that frequently, some guys widow is unloading ,
    or some guy who has decided its beyond his skill level,
    or he no longer has the desire to complete the project,
    those are golden opportunities we all look for,
    but its been my experience they are rather rare,
    and in many cases you only hear about them,
    when a buddy purchased the project, well before you ever had the opportunity.
    yes accumulating a mix of good O.E.M. parts and well matched aftermarket parts is time intensive and expensive,
    Its also generally the route required to build a truly dependable engine,
    simply because if you don,t know the quality of parts and machine work,
    in that used engine its a gamble that may or may not be as advertised,
    at best total disassembly of an components or engine, close inspection and checking clearances is warranted.
    I don,t get a nickle from anyone's project, but I do want them to avoid expensive mistakes.
    All too common mistakes I see being made rather frequently
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2019 at 2:31 PM
  15. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    I see You added Grumpy.
    Lol.
    When guys are broke they are broke.

    I want the very Best always too !
    Takes money !
    Best move I made was to get out of Auto side as a day job.
    Diesel mechanic I am now again pats much better !
    Race Engine. Race Car !
     
  16. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Total Seal has something new.
    Report tonight.
     

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