pre season exercise?

grumpyvette

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one thing Ive found thats critical to getting in shape for elk season is exercise pre elk season,and no mater what shape you think your in, if you live near sea level like I do.
Youll soon find your in horrible condition once you get up in the 8000-11,000 elevation range.
Not only will you likely get altitude sickness the first few days , youll also find you just can,t do simple things until your body adjusts and that takes time.
Knowing that I purchased a tread mill exercise machine years ago to get into and try to stay in physical shape, and like most people that own one its used far too infrequently.
I do realize that not exercising, too get into at least marginal shape pre hunt, is really stupid, so starting several months prior to every elk season, I force myself into a routine, I know from 45 plus years of experience that no mater what I do Im going to be in pretty bad shape compared to what I would like to be, so I force myself to run the equivalent of 1 mile on the tread mill each day,when I start usually in june or in july, and trust me at my age thats a killer deal and I tend to do it in 4, 1/4 mile sessions so my heart doesn,t explode, once I can do that reasonably well, I add a 1/4 mile to the routine each week until I get up to 2 miles in 8 1/4 mile sprints on the tread mill, it helps to do it watching T.V. so you don,t get bored silly and it helps to keep a log and force your self mentally to do it,crossing off each 1/4 mile and not cheating or ignoring the routine as you pay for it in the long run if you do, once you reach Colorado, because theres a huge tendency to want to cheat and skip the routine. but by the time I drive out each year to Colorado Im in a bit better shape,than I would be other wise. now Im certainly not going to say in good shape as Im 64 and a bit over weight, but it sure helps.

so what do you guys do! pre hunt to get in shape?

many of my old geezer friends I used to hunt with don,t bother , and several have reached the point where they just gave up hunting.
and yeah! when I get a chance I take the stairs rather than an elevator and if I only need one item, and the weathers decent,I walk to local stores rather than drive.
 
Dorian's weekly routine (Simplified):
Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday/Friday:
Per muscle group: three times 4 sets of 6 to 8 reps till failure every single time.
If I can manage ten reps or more before failure, I start the set over. That's a strong incentive to get it right the first time. Believe me!

Monday: biceps/quads
Tueday: chest/hamstring
Wed: Shoulders/traps
Thurday: Back/Spinal erectors
Friday: Triceps/calves

I tend to lace in one rotating "super-heavy" day per week: sets of 6-3-1 as heavy as I can take.

Monday/Wed/Friday: Abdominals - maintenance only. Before bed or before b-fast.

Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday noon: five-mile run.
Tuesday and Thursday are high intensity interval training. Saturday is recovery day.


Sunday: Zzz!
Once every 4 weeks: NO physical activity - ummm, let's not read too far into that...


Dorian's daily feeding habits:
220gr of protein, 100gr of carb, 50gr of fat.
'don't really care where I get it from.
Eating 5-6 times a day...
Breakfast: 12 raw eggs no yolk every morning - 40gr of raisins, 40gr of steel cut oatmeal, 125ml of soy milk...
10:00 200gr of grilled chicken 250gr of Brussels sprouts ;)
12:00 Can of tuna + apple.
etc.


Nota Bene
This is year round - not pre-season...
I don't hunt (non-sentient) animals ;)
 
And my hero: Dave Draper, late 60s or early 70s. He was the Austrian Oak's precursor.

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Impressive for his age! I guess you can't wait until you can be 60 years old to see how you fair??? :D
 
Indycars said:

Impressive for his age! I guess you can't wait until you can be 60 years old to see how you fair??? :D

You are closer to the truth than you think...

Lou Ferrigno at 60 (Alias the incredible hulk)
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Serge Nubret at 65
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Robbie Robinson at 62
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Frank Zane 64
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And so many more...
 
DorianL said:
You gents must think I am certifiable by now...

No, it's impressive that you can devote that much time to training and still get everything else done that life requires. It's another part of getting to know who Dorian really is! I've tried to lift weights during college and for a few years afterwards, but just could not stick with it for very long.

I have a nephew that's well over 40 now and competes in the Highland Games. We roomed together in college. He would introduce me as his uncle Rick, which people found hard to believe. Before the highland games he was into power lifting and always trained from college until today.

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I had this huge intern here once - participated in highland games in Scotland. VERY impressive. Dude had quads like tree trunks!

There is no easy way to do this. You have to make the time. On vacation in Germany for a month I had to get up at 0530 to work out. NOT fun. On temporary duty same thing, I have to find hotels with decent fitness rooms or pay $$$ and head for the hilton.

Here I am affiliated with two iron houses and use whichever one is convenient to get my weekly routine in. In a pinch I have in my basement about 40 or 50 pieces of free weights, olympic barbells, dumbbells and benches I bought from a bankrupt iron house -$200. It ain't easy and requires declining beer with the mates at times, as well as constantly shifting fluid schedules. Always adapting.

Toughest part is feeding. 75% of fitness is accomplished in the kitchen. Getting those macros in is tough! Buying each weekend several pounds of frozen chicken, 24 eggs a day, protein shakes, cans of tuna, veg... laundry! The fun part is outperforming the local marines that are at times half my age. Challenges come and go every few months.

Add to the insanity: improving my century old house (now converting attic into additional rooms for my twin girls, 11); working on the Tangerine Tornado (New Valve body needs to go in); scout meetings every Monday (for Dorian, 12 and me ;) ); every other sunday handgun practice; and the latest, I wound up president of the Brussels german-english Toastmaster club... drafting a speech right now for tomorrow on "free will"
 
Oh, and a nice perk... quite a few young, charming and visually appealing lady folk appreciate my services as a personal trainer... at the gym or training them to run in the park during lunch break. Now that's nice motivation :D
 
Doria'ns poor first draft of tomorrow's speech on Free Will:

No Fate But What We Make?


“Who here believes in Free Will?”

“OK, what is Free Will?”

All right, let me ask you this…

“Have you ever been in a situation that you wanted to take a particular action, but could not bring yourself to do it?”

“I am not talking about which toothpaste for next week,
but those larger-than-life game-changers?”

“Have you ever made a decision and thought in hindsight,
‘that was the wrong decision, I could have done things differently’?”

“Why didn’t you take that decision?”

Hmmm, what if I was to tell you: no worries… you didn’t have a choice…

I was watching a Philip K. Dick movie the other day: the Adjustment Bureau… fascinating. I recommend it. The same fellow is also known for Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, alias Blade Runner. He also did Total Recall and Minority Report. All of these deal in some way with Free Will.

The absence of free will, or Determinism, is the concept that the sum of our experiences –say where we were born or how a close relative died- shaped our mind and determines our decisions when presented with a specific situation.

Can we really make our own decisions?

As I watched the Adjustment Bureau, I was struck after awhile that free will does not exist, or more precisely, it is -as Richard Dawkins would put: irrelevant and a “silly question.” Isn’t, it?

Indeed, does it really matter if we are destined or pre-determined; that the sum of all our experiences dictates predictable and inevitable outcomes? Does that make our feelings and emotions no less real?

No, it does matter! We are human! We are not animals.
We have a divine spark: we can learn!

If we didn’t have that divine spark
why would we worry about our decisions?

We cannot prevent them anyway.
We worry, therefore we must have free will.

Hmm, Ironically it is precisely what makes us human, plasticity, that ability to learn, to bypass instinct… that seems to bolster the thesis that we have no free will. We go through experiences and “We learn to be a man. We learn to be responsible. We learn to make decisions and learn to take a stand…” But could we have done things differently had we not the opportunity to learn?

Can you expect a child to vote or be responsible?
No, they have yet so much to learn

It is said that hindsight is 20/20 so perhaps it was impossible for us to have done things differently until we had a specifically liberating, or should I say determinant, experience?

Oscar Wilde once said: Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes.

And therein lies the key: it is the lessons we choose to learn from our experiences. Surely we master at least that… don’t we?

Don’t we?

Do we?

Hmmm, who is to say that the sum of our experiences hasn’t railroaded us into drawing predictable lessons from our experiences? In other words, the lessons we learn from our experiences are not ours to choose but are rather predicated by our past experiences and are actually beyond our control.

When faced with any decision let alone a tough decision… do we have a choice?

Ben Kingsley put it eloquently in “The Confession.” He said, “It’s not hard to do the right thing; in fact it’s easy. What’s hard is knowing what the right thing to do is. Once you know that, and believe it, doing the right thing is easy.”

Do I have a point? I like having a point.
I have two, in fact.

Determinism matters and is doesn’t matter.

Determinism doesn’t matter in that even if we accept that we are the sum of our experiences and not free our sentiments of torment and our quest for truth are no less real feelings. Who cares if it’s an illusion; it feels real!

Determinism matters because it is liberating: “Hindsight is 20/20. Had I known, I would have done things differently.” And that is precisely the point: you didn’t or else you would have decided differently at the time. You in fact did take the best decision you could for yourself, at that time – considering context, predicted outcome, available information and personal limitations.

My ultimate point is this:
FORGET FREE WILL AND DETERMINISM. AS YOU LOOK BACK, DON’T REGRET YOUR DECISIONS. EVERY DECISION YOU MADE WAS THE RIGHT DECISION FOR YOU, IN CONTEXT, AT THAT PRECISE TIME IN YOUR LIFE WHEN YOU TOOK IT. YOU COULD HAVE DONE NO BETTER HAD YOU KNOWN BETTER… BECAUSE YOU DID NOT KNOW AND WERE NOT ABLE TO DO DIFFERENTLY ANYWAY.
 
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