why is it people can,t judge distances worth $%%^^ I go to a local range and theses about 40 100 yard line position's, and each lanes got a place to set up the target frames at 25 and 50 yards also I had mounted a new 2.5X scope on my 450 marlin rifle and bore sighted it, so I set the target up the first time at 25 yards just to be sure I was on the target, if I was I intended to move it to 50 for 2-3 shot,s and then on the next relay move it to 100 yards and sight it in at 3.5" high at 100 yards like I do with all my heavier caliber rifles. as expected the first two shots are fairly close at the 25 yard range as are the two at 50 yards and I move the target out to 100 yards and while I'm tweaking the group on the target this guy whos been watching from the next bench walks over and asked how far that target was, out there I was shooting at........now this is clearly marked with small signs on the outer safety berm as 100 yards, so I'm just looking at him to see if hes joking, but it appears hes not so I point to the sign, that says "100 yard line" he then says hes noticed I'm having difficulty getting the group low enough to hit the 1" orange dot as all my hits are in a nice group but a couple inches above the bulls eye.....I tell him thats on purpose so the bullet will drop lower at a bit further out , and sighting in that way insures its far easier to hit game out at 200 yards or so as Id need to guess at drop less.........he assures me I,m confused as the bullet will continue to shoot flat and by hitting high at 100 yards I'm probably a foot or more above the intended target out at 200 yards.....I just smile and thank him for pointing that out....then he hits me with this "jem".... "on those non-adjustable scopes with only a single setting , like that one your using ,your at a huge disadvantage you know....you can,t simply turn up the power to extent the distance the bullet impacts at." now I'm starting to think one of my friends Ive not seen is having a laughing fit with a practical joke.. but Im thru sighting in so I just packed, slowly and left, but as I'm leaving this guy says I really should measure the distance to the targets because it sure looks like its a bit more than 100 yards, ......smile and wave boys..smile and wave... Range Velocity 0 1800 -1.5 25 1719 0.93 50 1645 2.61 75 1574 3.49 100 1506 3.5 125 1441 2.55 150 1380 0.53 175 1322 -2.62 200 1269 -7.01 225 1220 -12.77 250 1175 -19.97 275 1136 -28.75 300 1101 -39.22 it seems that lately every time I visit the range theres fewer of the old geezers I grew up with and know at least by site, and more new shooters, now obviously we all learn thru experience,or thru a mentors guidance and Ive sure got lots of younger guys involved with shooting, and reloading over the years. in years past guys actually picked up and read magazines and went out shooting, lately I seem to run into more and more ignorant guys at the ranges, now ignorance is curable but it takes time and effort and a willingness to learn. one factor that hurting the sport is theres fewer ranges and far fewer open areas to just go out and set up targets and shoot on your own, we used to shoot at local rock pits and dumps and even the friendlier cops at the time would direct you to one ,if asked, but now theres obviously been a mass effort to limit shooting locations access. as a result theres far less opportunity to experiment on distant targets, like a rock on a hill side 400 yards away, not much beats prior experience, with your own rifle.