Short Barrel Pistol Caliber Carbines, And Similar Weapons

Grumpy

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  • you seldom find people how once having used these pistol caliber carbines,
    • be aware that the pistol caliber carbines
    • (most are available in 9mm para caliber,
    • with
    • 40 S&W and 10mm and 45 acp

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  • who don't have a strong opinion either favorable or negative,
  • they are either appreciated for lower recoil,
  • lower cost ammo and being a handy personal defensive weapon,
  • or as many guys see them,
  • a rather archaic , tool that has decades ago been superseded,
  • with the much more powerful ,
  • m1 carbine,
  • m1
  • AR-15/
m2

  • AK-47 style carbines
  • m3
  • These other caliber options like .40 S&W and 10mm and 45 acp
  • are generally much more scarce or limited availability versions)
  • are fun to plink with and ammo's reasonably priced
  • these can be fun for informal plinking.
  • and certainly would in some cases be a good personal defensive weapon for the home,
  • or wife to have available in your home
  • ,as recoil and muzzle blast is very very low and even a novice can generally shoot these well,
  • with minimal practice,
  • provided she's willing to gain familiarity and practice in its use.
  • but its a weapon platform the military in most country's no longer issues
  • ,in significant numbers,
  • they are generally reserved for special ops troops in very limited numbers
  • pistol caliber carbines are not generally used by most front line combat troops,
  • and there's a damn good reason,
  • most pistol caliber carbines are almost the size and weight of an intermediate rifle caliber carbine,
  • in calibers like 223/5.56 and 7.62/39 and similar cartridges,
  • those calibers have more than twice the punch,
  • and three times the effective range.
  • most of the current commercial available pistol carbines could never pass military durability trials
  • (the UZI , H&K MP 5 and AK and AR 15 based versions are an exception)
  • yeah, police and security forces use some versions,
  • so ask yourself if you were given a choice in weaponry and in either case,
  • weight and size were similar.
  • the smaller pistol caliber carbines are mostly used with suppressors
  • (silencers??)
  • (that suppressor being added requires an additional ATF form and $200 tax stamp and approval)
  • where the smaller pistol calibers, and 8"-12" barrels,
  • make a great deal of sense,
  • is with the suppressor use.
  • because they are designed and used at under 100 yards,
  • to take out sentries with greatly reduced noise in the military use.
  • Id bet most of us, if given a choice in a potential personal defensive, combat scenario,
  • would step up to an intermediate rifle caliber carbine,
  • in calibers like 223/5.56 , 30 us govt carbine and 7.62/39 and similar cartridges,
  • personally Id damn sure rather carry a carbine ,
  • in calibers like 223/5.56 and 7.62/39 and similar cartridges,
  • now semi auto carbines are available in under 16" barrel lengths,
  • but if you buy one it requires a NFA $200 tax stamp and ATF approval,
  • which has restrictions and can take 4-7 months for approval
  • a carbine with a 16" barrel is the size of an intermediate cartridge carbine and to me it's a bad trade-off ,
  • you lost potential range and power, using a pistol caliber,
  • but are carrying the similar weight and size weapon.
If you might prefer something thats a good deal less military in appearance and very effective, in a personal defense carbine
theres always the option of a marlin 44 mag lever gun

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https://gundigest.com/rifles/ar-15/should-you-own-a-pistol-caliber-carbine

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/08/6-reasons-a-pistol-caliber-carbine-makes-sense/

https://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008...arbine-rifles-for-home-defense-pros-and-cons/

https://thegunzone.com/best-9mm-carbines/

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2019/9/18/top-18-pistol-caliber-carbines-for-2019/

https://kalashnikov-usa.com/guns/kr-9-sbr/

https://kalashnikov-usa.com/guns/kr-9rifle/

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/products/aam-rmuz-09

https://hk-usa.com/

https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2019/07/9mm-ar15-carbines/

https://www.gunbacker.com/9mm-carbines/

https://gun.deals/product/uzi-9mm-carbine-725

https://www.minutemanreview.com/best-9mm-carbine/

https://gundigest.com/rifles/7-affordable-9mm-carbine-options-2018

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-308-win-in-your-basic-defensive-rifle.12421/
whats you thoughts?
btw I've played with quite a few of these carbines
there's a few I like (the uzi , MP5 and AK versions):D
that impressed me as a personal defensive weapon option,
and several
I think are basically junk,
(yes just personal opinion, so yours may differ)
hi-point and keltec come to mind:rolleyes:


whats your experience
 
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