short barrel rifles

grumpyvette

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some guys find a short handy rifle makes hunting far more pleasant, one of the guys I hunt elk with has an older 30/06 760 Remington pump action with an 18" barrel that hes used very successfully for decades, very high velocity is seldom required, most games shot at well under 200 yards
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he loads 165 grain speers over 55 grains of H414 with a 215 fed primer, its accurate but its got some muzzle flash, but hes collected several elk and mule deer, yeah, velocity may not be top notch but the elk never seem to notice

http://www.speer-bullets.com/ballistics ... aspx?id=94

http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/defau ... fle&Source


yeah I can see that...
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personally I vastly prefer a complete pass thru and exit, but I want the bullet to expand and do some damage while in transit, I try for heat / lung shots and not to break large bones, I've found that limiting the bullet selection to the .338-through.458 calibers and selecting a bullet with at least 250 grain weight, and being rather selective in bullet placement, rather than just shooting at any thing you see,with fur goes a long way to getting the desired results while knowing the intended targets anatomy helps a good deal in achieving that desired result
heres some suggestions from years of experience, you may not hunt thick timber most of the time like I do, but it won,t hurt to know what works at moderate ranges on elk either.keeping the bullets on the higher end of the sectional density range and impact velocity well below 3000 fps tends to help penetration
the 250 hornady in .338 at about 2600 fps
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or 340 wby at about 2800 fps
the 250 speer used in the 358 win at about 2300 fps and 35 whelen at about 2500 fps


the 270 hornady in a 375 H&H at about 2500 fps
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.a ... er&Source=

the 405 remington in a 45/70 at about 1800 fps
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http://www.neihandtools.com/catalog/index.html
I found this bullet to be especially accurate in my marlin 45/70 over 45 grains oF IMR 4198, Im not sure what velocity its near 1900 fps youll get in your rifle but cast from 95% wheel weights and 5% tin,well lubed its accurate,and it shoots thru deer,hogs and elk real well with expected results..very dead game
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cal .338 hornady 250 grain
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/767308 ... box-of-100

cal .358 .speer 250 grain
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/i ... =000212453

cal .375 hornady 270 grain
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/930087 ... -box-of-50

cal .458 remington 405 grain.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/160121 ... soft-point
 
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