Torch welding info request
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How does an Oxyacetylene welder compare to an electric ARC, MIG or TIG welder, what is it good at and what can it NOT do?
What are some warning on storeing, and transporting tanks? Can I srive with tanks in my trunk while the trunk is cracked open to vent gases?
How does OXY gasoline or OXY propane compare to acetylene?
Is it a good choice for welding extremely thick metal (4' steel like a barrel of a cannon)
Can I weld sheet metal with one?
Are there problems operating these in very cold or hot weather?
how do you recemend a casual user go about abating tanks and fuel?
How much does fuel and oxygen cost?
How long does the gas last?
Are cutting and welding tips interchangeable between manufacturers?
The answers to these would require a book to answer but I give some short answers to get you started
How does an Oxyacetylene welder compait to an electric ARC, MIG or TIG welder, what is it good at and what can it NOT do?All of the diufferent types have their own purpose. Oxygen/acetylene welding utilizes oxygen and acetylene mixed at the torch to produce a flame hot enough to melt metal. It can be used for metal cutting as well as welding purposes. Oxygen/acetylene welding takes quite a bit of practice and skill, as well as quite a bit of safety rules in storing and using the gases.
Stick welding uses an electric current flowing directly between a gap between the metal and the “stick†or arc-welding electrode. The current causes part of the electrode to melt, allowing it to mix with the metal of the work piece and form the weld. The electrode has a flux coating that burns to form a protective shield around the arc. Stick welding is the most effective method for welding many different alloys or joints. Stick welding can be used outdoors or indoors or in drafty areas, is the most economical method and will weld on rusty or dirty metals.
MIG welding (GMAW) (also sometimes called wire-feed) uses a wire welding electrode on a spool that is fed automatically at a constant selected speed. The arc created by an electrical current between the base metal and the welding wire melts the wire and joins it with the base. This produces high-strength welds with a very good appearance and little need for cleaning. MIG welding also uses a gas shield process with gas fed through the welding torch and acting as a shield at the arc. This prevents oxidation and contamination of the base metal. The gas utilized may be inert or active, depending on the base metal to be welded. MIG welding is clean, easy and can be used on either thin or thicker plate metals
TIG, also called Heliarc. It utilizes tungsten inert-gas and is used primarily by businesses but has a strong and growing following among home users. It can be considered a cross between O/A and MIG welding, A tungsten rod provides the arc/heat and a separate filler rod is used to fill voids
What are some warning on storeing, and transporting tanks? Can I srive with tanks in my trunk while the trunk is cracked open to vent gases?Use common sense, don't store or transport in an enclosed area, Do not transport without the valve caps screwed on tight and please do not transport in your trunk. Some place will not even fill or exchange them if you do not have a correct way to move them
How does OXY gasoline or OXY propane compare to acetylene?The difference is the amount of heat produced with O/A being the hottest
Is it a good choice for welding extremely thick metal (4' steel like a barrel of a cannon)Save up about $15,000-$20,000, then we'll talk:laughing:
Can I weld sheet metal with one? Yes, with O/A, MIG or TIG. ARC isn't much good for metal thinner than 1/8" O/A produces the most warping with MIG being next then TIG. Most body shops have gotten away from O/A and use MIG. A few shop have progressed to TIG
Are there problems operating these in very cold or hot weather?Not really except in extremely hot temperature it makes welding uncomfortable:laughing: :laughing:
how do you recemend a casual user go about abating tanks and fuel?BY abating, if you mean emptying then just open the valve. If you mean disposing of them then you don't have much choice. As a casual user, you will probably be leasing them (typically $100-$150/year depending on size) and need to take them back to the Lessor
How much does fuel and oxygen cost?It is relatively inexpensive and depend on your local retailer, usage, tank size
How long does the gas last?Consumption is not that great
Are cutting and welding tips interchangeable between manufacturers?Not typically but they are considered a disposable item and are available from several manufacturers
around my location the standard tanks (chest high oxy or acetolene)cost about $35-$40 each to fill, and last several months (naturally the amount of use , ESPECIALLY CUTTING TORCH USE) and the gauge settings effect results
I will say a OXY-ACETOLENE TORCH and a DECENT TIG welder will do almost anything, a MIG is generally slightly limited in what it can do, but fast and exceptionaly easy to use
youll be best served asking DETAILED WELDING questions HERE, your always better off asking pros in the tech field rather than hobbiests
http://www.millermotorsports.com/mboard/forumdisplay.php?f=3
http://metals.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.aws.org/cgi-bin/mwf/forum_show.pl?markRead=1
http://www.hobartwelders.com/weldtalk/
AS EXAMPLEs ILL LIST SOME DECENT SOURCES OF WELDERS
http://www.smithequipment.com/products.htm
PHONE: (605) 882-3200
quality oxy-acetolene torches
http://www.htpweld.com/
Phone:
1-800-USA-WELD (toll free)
(847)357-0700
QUALITY WELDERS(nice 200 amp TIG)
http://www.esabna.com/products/arc-w...HDQQodJR xJSg
1-800-ESAB-123
(1-800-372-2123)
QUALITY WELDERS (nice 250-350 AMP TIGS)
http://www.millerwelds.com/
Phone: 920-734-9821
QUALITY WELDERS (MIGS,TIGS, DARN NEAR EVERYTHING)
http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Cat...ecobrowse.aspx
216-481-8100
QUALITY WELDERS(MIGS,TIGS, DARN NEAR EVERYTHING)
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How does an Oxyacetylene welder compare to an electric ARC, MIG or TIG welder, what is it good at and what can it NOT do?
What are some warning on storeing, and transporting tanks? Can I srive with tanks in my trunk while the trunk is cracked open to vent gases?
How does OXY gasoline or OXY propane compare to acetylene?
Is it a good choice for welding extremely thick metal (4' steel like a barrel of a cannon)
Can I weld sheet metal with one?
Are there problems operating these in very cold or hot weather?
how do you recemend a casual user go about abating tanks and fuel?
How much does fuel and oxygen cost?
How long does the gas last?
Are cutting and welding tips interchangeable between manufacturers?
The answers to these would require a book to answer but I give some short answers to get you started
How does an Oxyacetylene welder compait to an electric ARC, MIG or TIG welder, what is it good at and what can it NOT do?All of the diufferent types have their own purpose. Oxygen/acetylene welding utilizes oxygen and acetylene mixed at the torch to produce a flame hot enough to melt metal. It can be used for metal cutting as well as welding purposes. Oxygen/acetylene welding takes quite a bit of practice and skill, as well as quite a bit of safety rules in storing and using the gases.
Stick welding uses an electric current flowing directly between a gap between the metal and the “stick†or arc-welding electrode. The current causes part of the electrode to melt, allowing it to mix with the metal of the work piece and form the weld. The electrode has a flux coating that burns to form a protective shield around the arc. Stick welding is the most effective method for welding many different alloys or joints. Stick welding can be used outdoors or indoors or in drafty areas, is the most economical method and will weld on rusty or dirty metals.
MIG welding (GMAW) (also sometimes called wire-feed) uses a wire welding electrode on a spool that is fed automatically at a constant selected speed. The arc created by an electrical current between the base metal and the welding wire melts the wire and joins it with the base. This produces high-strength welds with a very good appearance and little need for cleaning. MIG welding also uses a gas shield process with gas fed through the welding torch and acting as a shield at the arc. This prevents oxidation and contamination of the base metal. The gas utilized may be inert or active, depending on the base metal to be welded. MIG welding is clean, easy and can be used on either thin or thicker plate metals
TIG, also called Heliarc. It utilizes tungsten inert-gas and is used primarily by businesses but has a strong and growing following among home users. It can be considered a cross between O/A and MIG welding, A tungsten rod provides the arc/heat and a separate filler rod is used to fill voids
What are some warning on storeing, and transporting tanks? Can I srive with tanks in my trunk while the trunk is cracked open to vent gases?Use common sense, don't store or transport in an enclosed area, Do not transport without the valve caps screwed on tight and please do not transport in your trunk. Some place will not even fill or exchange them if you do not have a correct way to move them
How does OXY gasoline or OXY propane compare to acetylene?The difference is the amount of heat produced with O/A being the hottest
Is it a good choice for welding extremely thick metal (4' steel like a barrel of a cannon)Save up about $15,000-$20,000, then we'll talk:laughing:
Can I weld sheet metal with one? Yes, with O/A, MIG or TIG. ARC isn't much good for metal thinner than 1/8" O/A produces the most warping with MIG being next then TIG. Most body shops have gotten away from O/A and use MIG. A few shop have progressed to TIG
Are there problems operating these in very cold or hot weather?Not really except in extremely hot temperature it makes welding uncomfortable:laughing: :laughing:
how do you recemend a casual user go about abating tanks and fuel?BY abating, if you mean emptying then just open the valve. If you mean disposing of them then you don't have much choice. As a casual user, you will probably be leasing them (typically $100-$150/year depending on size) and need to take them back to the Lessor
How much does fuel and oxygen cost?It is relatively inexpensive and depend on your local retailer, usage, tank size
How long does the gas last?Consumption is not that great
Are cutting and welding tips interchangeable between manufacturers?Not typically but they are considered a disposable item and are available from several manufacturers
Inspiron;970483 said:How does an Oxyacetylene welder compait to an electric ARC, MIG or TIG welder, what is it good at and what can it NOT do?
a torch can do a great deal, that the other welders don,t do well in some cases, in skilled hands,you can braze, silver solder and use it to bend and shape steel as well as weld, it has the advantage (like TIG)of both the heat and fill rod rates of supply are independently controlled,. It also tends to aneal the area near the weld as the area being welded is heated because the area heated is wider and takes longer to heat than for example a tig welder would do.
What are some warning on storeing, and transporting tanks? Can I srive with tanks in my trunk while the trunk is cracked open to vent gases?
check with your local city/county ordances because some citys won,t allow private houses to have tanks stored
How does OXY gasoline or OXY propane compare to acetylene?
propane does not have nearly the heat
Is it a good choice for welding extremely thick metal (4' steel like a barrel of a cannon)
Can I weld sheet metal with one?
Are there problems operating these in very cold or hot weather?
no, theres very few problems unless your talking UNDER freezing temps where the gas won,t expand as fast[/b]
how do you recemend a casual user go about abating tanks and fuel?
go to your local , LINCOLN, HTP,or MILLER WELDING DEALER, and ask questions and BUY QUALITY BRAND NAME EQUIPMENT
How much does fuel and oxygen cost?
How long does the gas last?
Are cutting and welding tips interchangeable between manufacturers?
Thanks in advance for the help!
around my location the standard tanks (chest high oxy or acetolene)cost about $35-$40 each to fill, and last several months (naturally the amount of use , ESPECIALLY CUTTING TORCH USE) and the gauge settings effect results
I will say a OXY-ACETOLENE TORCH and a DECENT TIG welder will do almost anything, a MIG is generally slightly limited in what it can do, but fast and exceptionaly easy to use
youll be best served asking DETAILED WELDING questions HERE, your always better off asking pros in the tech field rather than hobbiests
http://www.millermotorsports.com/mboard/forumdisplay.php?f=3
http://metals.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.aws.org/cgi-bin/mwf/forum_show.pl?markRead=1
http://www.hobartwelders.com/weldtalk/
AS EXAMPLEs ILL LIST SOME DECENT SOURCES OF WELDERS
http://www.smithequipment.com/products.htm
PHONE: (605) 882-3200
quality oxy-acetolene torches
http://www.htpweld.com/
Phone:
1-800-USA-WELD (toll free)
(847)357-0700
QUALITY WELDERS(nice 200 amp TIG)
http://www.esabna.com/products/arc-w...HDQQodJR xJSg
1-800-ESAB-123
(1-800-372-2123)
QUALITY WELDERS (nice 250-350 AMP TIGS)
http://www.millerwelds.com/
Phone: 920-734-9821
QUALITY WELDERS (MIGS,TIGS, DARN NEAR EVERYTHING)
http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Cat...ecobrowse.aspx
216-481-8100
QUALITY WELDERS(MIGS,TIGS, DARN NEAR EVERYTHING)
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