The Force Awakens...

Discussion in 'corvette related misc.' started by DorianL, Nov 22, 2017.

  1. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    That Permatex Ultra Copper High Temp RTV is the Best Stuff to use as Grumpy said 2 years ago to me.
    #2 on my list is Permatex Ultra Grey RTV.
    Everything else gets a coat of Permatex Aviation gasket cement.
    Pontiac V8 engines I Edelbrock Gasginch.
    Fel Pro Race Head Gaskets I like putting on dry.
    Grumpy Likes Ultra Copper spray on headgaskets.
    I use It on LS headgaskets to.
     
  2. Loves302Chevy

    Loves302Chevy "One test is worth a thousand expert opinions."

    Since we are on the subject, for years I could never get the rear end cover gasket to stay sealed on my 95 GMC truck.
    The gasket would get sucked in by the drivers side axle tube. I even bought a brand new cover even though the stock one was flat.
    I tried with no gasket (Permatex only), dry gasket, gasket with Permatex, Victor Tuff Cork gasket (steel core) with and without sealant, and
    even replaced the bolts with studs and nylock nuts. It wasn't until I found this stuff until I finally got it to seal.

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    Permatex® Gear Oil RTV Gasket Maker

    OEM specified. Specially formulated to withstand the harsh gear oil environment found in differentials and transfer cases. Because gear oil has friction modifiers that break down normal RTV and cause leaking, this specialty silicone has been tested to OEM specifications to ensure complete sealing. As a gasket maker, it seeks and seals leak paths that cut gaskets cannot. It can also be used to seal cut gaskets.

    Apparently, synthetic gear oil and/or the friction modifiers love to eat regular silicone.
     
  3. chromebumpers

    chromebumpers solid fixture here in the forum Staff Member

    Having some trouble loading this episode #9 of season 2 with a 1969 Corvette

    Right now you can see the end of this show, for some unexplainable reason I can’t copy the whole show??? Perhaps someone here can help, or you may have already seen this - oh well, I tried!

     
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  4. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Sometimes Videos do not want to copy easy.
    Have to try another method.
    When I have problems I get the wife to help.

    Nice C3 like Doriens.
     
  5. Indycars

    Indycars Administrator Staff Member

    It plays the whole 1:32 minutes for me.
     
  6. DorianL

    DorianL solid fixture here in the forum Staff Member

    You might be onto something. I used NO sealant on the lip under the timing chain cover. NONE. Only a large bead on the "four corners". I thought that was the standard way to do this. I am not using a single piece gasket at the moment, but a traditional four piece of rubber and cork.

    This weekend, I may try again with a news set of pan gaskets and... some sealant ! I don't think I'll be able to find a single piece blue gasket here.

    Any and all tip on install welcome ! I don't want to have to do this a third time.
     
  7. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Edelbrock Gasginch is my favorite to use on Cork gaskets.
     
  8. DorianL

    DorianL solid fixture here in the forum Staff Member

    Will do. I have some of that. Block side only?

    Where would the RTV go? Under and across the timing chain cover lip? And what about the rear?
     
  9. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    I use Gasginch on both sides of the gasket.
    Then a thin coat on the block and oil pan rails.
    Let them dry till tacky.
    Gasginch has Alcohol in it as a thinner and evaporates.
    When dry its tacky.
    Before its sets up fully place the cork or paper gaskets in place on the block.
    Often need trim the gaskets with a razor knife after install.
    Apply RTV of your choice to where the rubber and cork/paper gaskets meet. 4 corners..install the oil pan.
    Tighten the pan center to outwards in a criss cross pattern.
     
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  10. Loves302Chevy

    Loves302Chevy "One test is worth a thousand expert opinions."

    I will try one more time with my 1 piece gasket by using sealer not only in the 4 corners, but under the front and rear seal areas also.
    If that does not work, then I'm going back to 4 piece gaskets. I never had any trouble with them sealing.
    But, I use Victor Tuff Cork brand gaskets. The side rail cork gaskets have a steel liner.
    Looks like they might be getting hard to find. But I found these on ebay:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-OS3...ash=item5453e199c2:g:FmYAAOSwnHZYaKHH&vxp=mtr
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-OS3...ash=item5453e193fc:g:EVsAAOSw241YaAQu&vxp=mtr
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-OS3...ash=item5453e18c93:g:nggAAOSwImRYZ0Md&vxp=mtr
    The last one is for 1985 and up with the PASS side dipstick. The other two are for DRIVERS side, and I'm
    sure that the difference in the part numbers (XTC and ZTC) is for the thin and thick front seal, but I'm
    not sure which one is which.
     
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  11. DorianL

    DorianL solid fixture here in the forum Staff Member

    Interestingly, the side rail cork gaskets on the car when I got it were steel core. I had never seen those before...
     
  12. DorianL

    DorianL solid fixture here in the forum Staff Member

    Well, Gentlemen, an interesting development. I went to the only "Speedshop" in Belgium. It turns out they had a one piece oil pan gasket in stock AND a trans mount. So, hopefully this weekend, I will have this squared away. In terestingly, the instructions recommend some RTV in front where the block meets the oil pan and a dab in the back where the block meets the cap.
     
  13. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

    well? any progress?
     
  14. Indycars

    Indycars Administrator Staff Member

    He wrote this the last time he was on last Saturday. I think he is in the US.

    Ha, I will be swinging by CT. I have a three week TDY in Long Island NY but need to swing by CT
     
  15. DorianL

    DorianL solid fixture here in the forum Staff Member

    Hey All, sorry for dropping out...things have been a little crazy. My travel was cancelled then re-approved 2 days before I left. Wife was not thrilled - nor was I actually.

    Now two snow storms in a row? Teleworking today but I will be online later... ;-)
     
  16. DorianL

    DorianL solid fixture here in the forum Staff Member

    Yes, I am on Long Island - LOTS of defense companies here... used to supply Northrop Grumman
     
  17. Indycars

    Indycars Administrator Staff Member

    How long are going to be in the US? Just in Long Island or other places?
     
  18. DorianL

    DorianL solid fixture here in the forum Staff Member

    This week and next - just the area and a couple of cities in Connecticut
     
  19. Loves302Chevy

    Loves302Chevy "One test is worth a thousand expert opinions."

    Even with a brief stop, you should quickly see how Connecticut is DEAD LAST in recovery from the recession. DEMS just keep on spending........
     
  20. Strictly Attitude

    Strictly Attitude solid fixture here in the forum

    Long island is 3.5 hrs from where I am in N.Y. I live up by the capital Albany
     

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