thinking about getting into reloading

I watch the guys and what they bring into camp,
on the years I can get free to hunt,
and theres been several very pronounced trends,
in the 1970-80s big scopes and 7mm-300 magnums were common,
now at least among the old geezers ,
the 358 win BLR and 35 whelen in both Remington slide actions and bolt actions were and remain very common in camp the last few years,
and 2 x 7 and 4 x scopes were the most common, the consensus seems to be that carrying anything heavier or that kicks harder, is neither needed or worth the effort,
and while guys used to brag about making long range shots,
now they brag about getting into bayonet range before shooting
 
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I just traded a homemade AR I built a few years ago for a Ruger model 96 in 44 Mag so scope shopping starts again
 
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1362147019/leupold-fx-ii-ultralight-rifle-scope-25x-20mm-matte
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http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ing-a-handgun-for-hunting-hogs-deer-elk.1864/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/44-mag.7500/

the marlin 1894 in 44 mag
the 44 mag because its a light,accurate fast handling deer rifle thats a joy to hunt with and carry ,
I load 310 grain cast gas check bullets over 21 grains of h110, sized .430,
low recoil and excellent accuracy. the rifle pushes that load to near 1600 fps

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Whats the range on a 44 rifle? This may be my new brush - walking around deer rifle. A friend told me yesterday about a local pawn shop that got in a bunch of reloading stuff so I went to take a look most of the stuff was off calibers that I don't have. Then we started BSing about guns & ARs & he showed me a Ruger model 96 in 44 mag and said he would trade my an AR for the Ruger so I made the deal . While I was standing there a guy came in with an almost new Stihl chainsaw model 362C that the shop owner didn't have the money for at that minute and asked me if I wanted it for $200.00 so I bought it. Sometimes it pays to be in the right place at the right time
 
a 44 mag is a decent, short/ medium range deer rifle.
while I've seen several deer very successfully taken at ranges of 150-200 yards its best used under 150 yards

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/0000690858/Double-Cavity-Mold-C430-310-RF-
I sight my carbines in like this
you simply sight in at 100 yards off the bench on the yellow dot and have all the shots print over the smaller red dot,when you get out in the field, hold where the light green dot is it will produce a fatal wound out a bit past 180 yards with a 3.3 high at 100 yards site in and allow a easy center chest hold out to any reasonable range youll use a 44 carbine at.
and yes a hard cast 310 grain produces a fatal wound out at 180 yards if your a good shot with a broadside target
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http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/printable-targets-and-sighting-in.4560/
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How do you mix the lead & tin I have plenty of lead for sinker molds is it the same? I do see on reloading sites & e bay they sell a bullet casting mix I will have to check that out when I get that far
 
 
Well huntings over back to life. Grumpy I have a stupid question I shoot a lot of 38's in my 357 mag revolvers when reloading 38 brass just load them to the 38 specs in the book ? I don't have a bullet headspace gauge & I can't see why I can't use the 357 gauge for diameter & don't worry about length because they are so much shorter. The end of the season for deer up here so I got to try some reloads I fired some 9mm, 40 cal , 357, 223 , 308 & 30.06 with only one issue the 9mm would cycle in my Sig 938 my Glock 43 the Sig 226 but my Walther kept jamming with reloads but would cycle factory loads fine. When I got home I checked the length & seated the bullets .015 deeper they hand cycled in the Walther fine I am still a few thousandths longer than some factory rounds & shorter than some but my other guns fired even the longer rounds fine do you think I'm OK
 
your most likely fine!
as a bullet is seated deeper in the case, (especially small pistol cases like 380 ACP and 9mm PARA,(but this also applies to all pistol calibers.)
the volume the expanding power has to expand into is reduced and pressure increases,
thus the action has a bit more robust energy cycling it, and yes a change as small as that .015 is going to be noticed.
also over all length and the bullets profile both effect the distance it will move forward out of the case, before seating firmly into the rifling,
where it slows or stops forward movement, for a few microseconds, and pressure spikes slightly until its swagged and starts forward acceleration, as pressure overcomes resistance, differences may be small, but can be important and should be understood and measured

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Id also point out that ammo loaded for law enforcement and military consumption is commonly manufactured to MINIMUM permissible outside dimensions, to insure easy cambering and higher reliable function as accuracy is seen as secondary to reliable function
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its also very common for firearms produced for military use to have slightly larger chamber dimensions that civilian semi cloned copy.s (again, accuracy in a civilian product , being sold is seen as having slightly more commercial value than in a military product where reliable function is the prime concern)

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http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

http://www.nosler.com/load-data/

http://www.speer-bullets.com/products/reloading_manual/

http://www.accuratepowder.com/load-data/

http://www.barnesbullets.com/information/load-data/

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/
 
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Grumpy I have a question about sonic cleaners can you put some degreaser into the solution to remove any traces of the lube used for re sizeing
 
you could,, but done correctly your cases are cleaned BEFORE being reloaded , and any micro oil film remaining on the cartridge surfaceafter reloading is very minimal and is easily wiped off with a towel,, I generally roll finished loaded cartridges on an old bath towel then pack them in labeled plastic boxes but most people leave it on as it helps prevent discoloration

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/61...06-springfield-8x57mm-mauser-20-round-plastic

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/15...-magnum-wsm-to-470-capstick-100-round-plastic

(they come in several sizes and types)
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I tumbled them in media first then lubed them to re size wiped them down to trim to length I was going to re clean then re tumble then re load theese are extras that I don't need right away so I'm trying to get them as close to perfect as I can
 
powders

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/choosing-the-right-gunpowder-reloading-part-2/

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/index.aspx?page=/reloaders/index.aspx&

http://www.hodgdon.com/

https://www.westernpowders.com/

http://alliantpowder.com/

http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=61724

http://ads.midwayusa.com/s?usersearchquery=reloading guides&cm_mmc=ps_bing-_-bing-_-ST_Books_Magazines_Videos_Software_Beta_B-_-reloading guides

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/

http://www.handloads.com/

http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp


alloys
http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/casting-alloy-related.2286/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ance-to-use-cast-projectiles.9875/#post-40534

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...d-hunt-with-bullets-you-made.6802/#post-27927

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/casting-alloy-related.2286/#post-6103

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/bullet-lube.4835/#post-56502

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...re-a-more-durable-lube-sizer.9299/#post-56168
 
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http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...let-mold-designs-ive-found-very-useful.15299/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-with-bullets-you-made.6802/page-2#post-85697

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...e-hard-cast-lead-projectiles.9875/#post-70259

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...re-a-more-durable-lube-sizer.9299/#post-56168

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...lean-and-accuracy-consistant.4638/#post-34287

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...d-hunt-with-bullets-you-made.6802/#post-29059
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the mild frosted appearance has ZERO effect on performance and in fact its tends to indicate a more consistent mold fill
the alloy change allowed the tin and antimony crystallizes content to more effectively fill the voids but results in a slightly more frosted appearance
heavy frosting generally tends to result in a slightly under sized bullet, shiney, has no benefit, other than aesthetics,
want to prove it?
get your best looking ten of each shiney and mildly or even completely frosted bullets , load each group exactly the same, now shoot both in separated groups
chances are very good little difference or the frosted group is marginally tighter,
set the first shiney bullets you cast aside and then weigh and measure them for comparison to the frosted ones.
740F-760F is generally fine, obviously cast at a rate that does not over heat the mold, if you get finning your generally casting too fast or theres debris in the mold
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