thinking of building a shop?

grumpyvette

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ALLEN said:
Grumpy, I,m, looking at moving due to a job change in the near future and the new house, looks like a great deal,I should make enough on the sale of the old house to pay for the new home as prices in the areas are far different, I,ve picked out the new house at the new town,and should close tomorrow, it has room for a 30ft x 40ft or slightly larger garage or shop in the back yard, as the lots a full 1/4 acre,
(something I,ve always wanted but up to now never had room for at my current home)
any ideas or advice



CONGRATS, ON BEING ABLE TO UPGRADE IN THIS SHITTY ECONOMY!

, as far as the shop, ITS FAR EASIER TO DO THING CORRECTLY the FIRST TIME, vs re-due them later,
and your county building inspector will be a potential P.I.T.A. if you don,t think things thru,
and follow local building codes,
so think long and hard about the basic configuration ,
and get a well thought thru plan before you start, and price out the parts and labor and time required,
and what you want to have once your done, consider, shop security ,electric feeds, slab thickness,and minimum rafter height clearance,(especially if you ever intend to install a lift) drainage, heat and moisture venting air flow, county building codes, fire risk, plumbing or at least access to a water tap for a hose, roof pitch and roofing quality , ceiling fans and over head lighting ,outside lighting, motion sensor lights, door security, electrical outlet placement etc.
read the links it should help,
I learned a good deal building my shop

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...garage-plans-some-build-info-experiances.116/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/shop-drainage.5035/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/how-to-wire-a-shop.5/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/shop-ceiling-fans.4865/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...a-typical-220volt-30-amp-air-compressor.4821/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/a-car-lift-in-your-shop.98/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/garage-security.297/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...garage-door-insulation-and-temp-control.4517/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/planing-a-shop.8982/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/compressor-info.24/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/drive-ways.7458/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/building-a-concrete-slab-to-work-on.5007/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-fire-extinguisher-handy.81/page-2#post-42551

two of the guys in this area have steel buildings that have been there for over 20 years, held up under hurricane wind loads and still look really nice, they cost less than 1/2 what a similar concrete block building cost to erect,and require far fewer contractors and permits, building inspections etc. and they get a significantly lower tax rate also.
they come as custom kits , you need a large concrete slab, and from what both guys say less than a week to assemble if you have 2-4 guys willing to help assemble.. hey its a valid option in some cases

https://gladiatorsteelbuildings.com/steel-building-models/p-model/

https://gladiatorsteelbuildings.com/steel-building-models/a-model/

https://gladiatorsteelbuildings.com/price-estimate/

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lots of pictures of the build process as its completed would be great!!

related info links

just some basic info on the planning stages,
if you intend to install a car lift, in any shop, specify 4500 psi-5000 psi concrete and a lift, to be really safe ,
well it almost mandates 8"-9" thick floor slab,
and at least a 12 ft ceiling to floor minimum clearance, a lift requires
a 220 volt circuit and its always a very good idea to have the garage built on a pad thats at least 3-4 feet above,
the average surrounding ground level to enhance drainage

related useful links and sub links

remember that getting it right initially can save you a great deal of money and prevents a great deal of wasted time and cash you spend correcting potential mistakes
Id also point out a simple fact of geometry
the cost PER FOOT of floor space tends to go DOWN (PER SQ FOOT)
as the size of the shop goes up
example
lets say your comparing a 20 x 30 (600 sq ft)shop , 936 of roof area

vs a 30 x 40 shop (1200 sq ft) 1656 roof area
if the walls at 13 ft tall on both and ignoring doors windows etc
you would have 820 sq feet of wall surface on the smaller shop vs 1100 sq ft on the larger shop

so your looking at less than 50% more material for double the floor area


http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...garage-plans-some-build-info-experiances.116/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/a-car-lift-in-your-shop.98/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/building-a-concrete-slab-to-work-on.5007/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/thinking-of-building-a-shop.10656/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/shop-drainage.5035/#post-27439

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...consider-for-new-shop-build.14889/#post-83662

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/shop-lighting.1404/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...rough-and-don-t-scrimp-where-it-counts.15173/


http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...garage-plans-some-build-info-experiances.116/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/planing-a-shop.8982/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/shop-drainage.5035/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/building-a-concrete-slab-to-work-on.5007/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/a-car-lift-in-your-shop.98/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/how-to-wire-a-shop.5/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/shop-lighting.1408/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-thru-your-shop-and-car-security-issues.6403/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/shop-ceiling-fans.4865/
 
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