useful MIG weld info

[grumpyvette]

http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/tutorial.htm

http://www.millerwelds.com/resources/im ... kills/mig/

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to- ... G-Welding/

http://www.hobartwelders.com/elearning/#mig

http://www.weldingengineer.com/1mig.htm

http://www.vettemod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=221

read this thread
viewtopic.php?f=60&t=9745&p=36661#p36661
a bit of related reference material helps

LARRY LISTED THESE

I have listed a number of links below to what I know is the automotive industry information and training leader.

I-CAR (Inter -Industry Conference on Auto Collision Repair) has some very pertinent welding ( as well as other repair/refinishing )information posted on line that should be very helpful to those wanting to learn .

This link is to training videos and pdfs for I-CARs welding certification class. Please review if your unsure of the proper welding techniques or have not welded before .
http://www.i-car.com/html_pages/training_programs/downloads.shtml

This UPCR link page lists the proper steps for the welding/repair process. You'll need to browse through the listing and select the appropriate link.
The important ones are listed in the welding, corrosion protection ,structural parts and adhesive bonding. Below is the link to this page.
http://www.i-car.com/html_pages/technical_information/upcr.shtml

This next link has to do with properly restoring the corrosion protection on replacement metal panels. This should be done on any welded/bonded in panel.

http://www.i-car.com/html_pages/tec.../advantage_online_archives/2004/031504a.shtml

I've added this link for those that believe the original welds in the rail extensions and floor pan are insufficient. This is one of the many ways the OEMs are getting the strength and torsional rigidity improvements in todays new cars. This is probably the best way to increase the strength in a spot welded hat channel and can easily be applied to the Z cars.

http://www.icar.com/html_pages/tech...e/advantage_online_archives/2005/041805.shtml

Dont be afraid to browse this site. There is a lot of great info .


When welding remember just like in painting preparation,cleanlinessand practice are the most important step to a great outcome. Theres and old shop saying about welding, "If you dont weld so good weld more often."

There are other sites that list welding info . I used ICAR because it gives the best info for the application.

Now start welding .

Larry
www.wgmauto.com

 

[grumpyvette]

I am considering buying a Hobart Ironman 250 mig from notherentool.com. Does anyone have one that can tell me if it is a good Quality welder?"

ITS A DECENT WELDER, and it should do almost anything youll need to do on a car, BUT LOOK CLOSELY AT THESE WELDERS

http://www.welders-direct.com/merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=WD&Product_Code=907324

http://www.welders-direct.com/merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=WD&Product_Code=500408

http://www.welders-direct.com/merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=WD&Product_Code=907321

for the extra $200 I choose the MILLER 252, its got more features, more AMPS, it can use three sizes of wire and generally its got better support and better parts, extra optional accessories, I talked to several welding shops before buying my miller 252 and everyone suggested the new miller 212 or 252 over the similar hobarts if the price was similar.
but you can save some cash if you want too, the miller 212 will do about anything most guys need to do on a car.(I bought the 252 rather than the 212 miller mostly because Im a tool junkie)

before spending $1500-$2000 on any mig welder ,ask questions here

http://www.millerwelds.com/resources/co ... ay.php?f=4

having a LOCAL welding dealer and welding supply source and repair shop, is a huge plus, visit them and ask questions also, they will tell you miller welders generally have a good supply of parts and factory support.
Don,t forget the SHIELD GAS and tank/regulator ETC. you can,t MIG weld and get decent results without the GAS shielding

 

[grumpyvette]

this helps

viewtopic.php?f=60&t=10601&p=45477#p45477

 

[grumpyvette]

heres a response I got 0n a different site

Excellent choice on Miller 252 welder. I worked as a certified welder for a major utility in Michigan for twenty years. Our main process was MIG welding. The only brand we used was Miller welders. Not because they were less costly, but that was what the majority of the welders wanted. We used straight CO2 for tensile strength but a CO2/ARGON mix produces a much nicer looking weld. I would recommend not using flux core wire. Copper coated wire is a good idea as you don't experience rusting on the unused wire in the machine.......... HUTCH

viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1594
Yes I'm all too well aware that most guys don,t have the cash to buy an expensive welder for their shop or hobby , yes Ive used lincoln and miller basic migs in most of my friends shops and a lincoln and miller and even and eastwood 140 amp range mig will do many jobs well, Ive used a miller 140 amp rated MIG,and a similar lincoln MIG, and while they both do a fine job on floor pans and fenders., if you use the .023 wire and the correct shield gas, they really failed to impress me on thick material like differential suspension brackets, yes it would if done in several passes do the job but it did not have the ease and flexibility Ive come to expect from my 252 miller (obviously a $2400 machine has some advantages and you would hardly expect the smaller welder to keep up)