I was not there and obviously you or I don,t know all the related facts,
but whats your opinion?
I watched this video, and my personal first reaction, was why with three cops and what appears to be a jacked up partly insane assailant was it necessary to shoot this guy?
https://nypost.com/video/gunshot-to-the-stomach-doesnt-faze-suspect/
yeah, that was my first thought.....I have zero problem with defending yourself but the guy did not appear to be armed, and if he was not, there was no reason in my opinion, a nightstick could not have, with the proper training and skills on the cops part, been used, to drop the assailant
this guy, in the related linked video, not even extremely skilled from at least whats shown in the video but he should certainly have controlled the situation
I was never in Law enforcement, but I was asked and was invited a few times too demonstrate open hand and impact and other weapon martial arts skills and defensive tool use , un skilled beating on someone is counter productive in most cases, but with proper use a baton can be a damn effective tool to restrain any opponent, yes it takes training and a willingness to learn the skills and if the suspect antagonist has a weapon like a knife you would be stupid to confront his skills as he might get lucky and kill you so yeah in that case a pistol is the better option.
I've been involved in martial arts training for over 50 years,
the fact remains, that no weapon in less than trained hands can possibly live up to its full potential.
no handgun cartridge can be depended on to instantly incapacitate an aggressor, and this guy shrugged off a shot to the stomach rather rapidly making me think he was on serious drugs, but a determined aggressor can rarely be dropped with a single handgun cartridge hit to non-vital central nervous system or structural bone mass (hip joints, spine,neck, heart, head, etc.)
I can see where a copy that shot this guy was not trained in martial skills would tend to see a potential threat and react ,with a pistol, but I don,t think is the only or best option.
a skilled experienced practitioner, familiar with the required skills and even a basic pr24 baton,can make the vast majority of people look foolishly incompetent.
I'm certainly not nearly as skilled or experienced as some people, but in several martial arts demonstrations , I've found guys that were larger faster and much stronger than I was at the time still had a great deal of difficulty or found it nearly impossible too avoiding being forced into submission.
I'm certainly not suggesting that this is the only or even the correct answer, only that there are options and you would be amazed at how rapidly a skilled martial arts practitioner can take down someone larger stronger and faster if hes got some experience and practiced skills, especially with a few basic weapons like a pr24
I trained mostly for open hand and edged weapon use, but I think forcing this guy into submission given the fact there was three cops , was an option,and I doubt I would have had any problem if I had been similarly confronted if I had instant access to a pr24 baton.
I would think the option of spraining ,dislocating, or breaking a aggressors arm or knee vs potentially killing the guy with a center mass shot.
I was always taught that if you use edged weapons or a hand gun the object is to quickly and efficiently KILL the aggressor not disable them.
of course with todays tendency for even the drug soaked criminals , suing the cops, even when they are caught, it may be better to kill the guys outright
but whats your opinion?
I watched this video, and my personal first reaction, was why with three cops and what appears to be a jacked up partly insane assailant was it necessary to shoot this guy?
https://nypost.com/video/gunshot-to-the-stomach-doesnt-faze-suspect/
yeah, that was my first thought.....I have zero problem with defending yourself but the guy did not appear to be armed, and if he was not, there was no reason in my opinion, a nightstick could not have, with the proper training and skills on the cops part, been used, to drop the assailant
this guy, in the related linked video, not even extremely skilled from at least whats shown in the video but he should certainly have controlled the situation
I was never in Law enforcement, but I was asked and was invited a few times too demonstrate open hand and impact and other weapon martial arts skills and defensive tool use , un skilled beating on someone is counter productive in most cases, but with proper use a baton can be a damn effective tool to restrain any opponent, yes it takes training and a willingness to learn the skills and if the suspect antagonist has a weapon like a knife you would be stupid to confront his skills as he might get lucky and kill you so yeah in that case a pistol is the better option.
I've been involved in martial arts training for over 50 years,
the fact remains, that no weapon in less than trained hands can possibly live up to its full potential.
no handgun cartridge can be depended on to instantly incapacitate an aggressor, and this guy shrugged off a shot to the stomach rather rapidly making me think he was on serious drugs, but a determined aggressor can rarely be dropped with a single handgun cartridge hit to non-vital central nervous system or structural bone mass (hip joints, spine,neck, heart, head, etc.)
I can see where a copy that shot this guy was not trained in martial skills would tend to see a potential threat and react ,with a pistol, but I don,t think is the only or best option.
a skilled experienced practitioner, familiar with the required skills and even a basic pr24 baton,can make the vast majority of people look foolishly incompetent.
I'm certainly not nearly as skilled or experienced as some people, but in several martial arts demonstrations , I've found guys that were larger faster and much stronger than I was at the time still had a great deal of difficulty or found it nearly impossible too avoiding being forced into submission.
I'm certainly not suggesting that this is the only or even the correct answer, only that there are options and you would be amazed at how rapidly a skilled martial arts practitioner can take down someone larger stronger and faster if hes got some experience and practiced skills, especially with a few basic weapons like a pr24
I trained mostly for open hand and edged weapon use, but I think forcing this guy into submission given the fact there was three cops , was an option,and I doubt I would have had any problem if I had been similarly confronted if I had instant access to a pr24 baton.
I would think the option of spraining ,dislocating, or breaking a aggressors arm or knee vs potentially killing the guy with a center mass shot.
I was always taught that if you use edged weapons or a hand gun the object is to quickly and efficiently KILL the aggressor not disable them.
of course with todays tendency for even the drug soaked criminals , suing the cops, even when they are caught, it may be better to kill the guys outright
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