where in hell is my buck?

Discussion in 'misc hunting and range related' started by Grumpy, Feb 21, 2018.

  1. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

    white tail deer generally have a home area of about a half to one square mile, there's 640 acres in a square mile, trail cameras are a great idea to help you scout, but they certainly can,t accurately predict deer movement once the hunt pressure starts.
    from all the studies I've read your very unlikely to see more than 50% of the deer in any area on any trail camera, and even on several over a few weeks you won,t see all the deer.
    careful on sight scouting should allow you to locate a few places where you can place a climbing tree stand near the intersection of several game trails located in reasonable cover where your most likely to see game, trails in wide open areas are generally used after dark, and are less likely to be a good tree stand location.
    Obviously you can,t always select the ideal location, because decent size trees rarely are located in the ideal locations but careful scouting helps a great deal.
    florida deer are generally taken at ranges well under 200 yards so a traditional 257 roberts or 270 win, rifle, with some reach , and a high quality 4x or 2x-7x scope is about ideal, but the 30/30 or 44 mag carbines work for most of us.
    placing a stand well up in a large tree and sitting in it from before dawn to at least 11 am and from 4 pm till after dark, between and slightly inside the edge of two areas of heavy brush, with obvious game trails, is commonly productive
    use of a comfortable climbing deer stand allows you to see game over a vastly wider area than a ground blind,but it must be placed in a tree that in the correct area and that perfect tree,is not always located in the ideal place.
    your rifle of choice is obviously not as important as having the experience and time in the field to find the deer, and it certainly does not help if there are guys in ATVs , guys who use dogs too chase deer, guys, who don,t respect property boundary's or guys with dirt bikes running around your property, (which is in some areas a big issue) obviously human presents and movement, alter deer travel and normal routines.
    your 80 acres is 1/8th of that square mile area so in theory you have FAR less than a 25%- 12% chance of him being anyplace on your 80 acres,
    let alone near your deer stand or trail camera, on any given day,
    unless there's a specific reason that draws the deer like a feed station.
    (baiting deer is illegal in Florida).
    once hunting season opens most older more knowledgeable deer tend too go partly nocturnal, and spend most of the day time in thicker cover less traveled by people.
    correct use of a climbing deer stand is a very good idea, but as usual location and timing is critical.
    your intended target in all probability knows the games rules and just decided hiding during daylight was smarter than chasing does during day light.
    statistically you won,t get a deer every year.
    IN fact most ares in florida have under a 12% licence to kill ratio over a whole season.
    check with the local WILD LIFE OFFICE, and that areas,biologist for regulations, licences,s and info, maps and advice
    (thats why its called HUNTING, not SHOOTING season"
    statistically your over three times as successful using a tree stand thats placed at least 15-20 feet up a tree in a good area compared to still or sneak hunting

    http://myfwc.com/hunting/harvest-reports/by-season-areas/

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/best-climbing-tree-stand.6078/#post-18750
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    Last edited: Feb 21, 2018
  2. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member

    too me it sounds like you may want too invest in one or two of the trail cameras that you can down-load pictures from wirelessly from a distance,
    that are basically cell phones with extended life battery's
    so you can watch for but not overly disturb the bucks in that area.
    be aware that if the cameras are not placed high up above eye level and well hidden theres a good chance they will be intentionally stolen or damaged if you have trespassers
    read the fine print VERY CAREFULLY AND ASK DETAILED QUESTIONS,and read info carefully some cameras can be used from far off site,
    others require you get within a few dozen feet.
    you want a couple you can dial up from out of state, down load pictures and ideally that have photo cell battery rechargers
    https://www.trailcampro.com/collections/wireless-trail-cameras

    https://www.opticsplanet.com/trail-cameras.html

    https://www.stealthcam.com/

    https://www.besttrailcamerareviews.org/wireless-trail-camera/

    https://www.trailcameralab.com/best-wireless-trail-camera-reviews-the-top-8/
     

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