why do some guys think problems are not normal

[grumpyvette]

honestly I have to wonder at times when I get some of the questions I see posted, why do some guys think that solving minor problems are not a totally normal component of any engine modification process?
anytime you start re-arranging and modifying a car in some way there is bound to be compromises or changes being made that will require other changes, more horsepower WILL require better cooling larger brakes and a stronger more durable drive train, a larger engine will generate more heat and require an improved fuel and exhaust system, its just part of the process and expected, you learn too solve problem that in some cases YOU caused with previous mods you did, its just a fundamental part of the hobby.
I got a call fro m a guy who installed a 7 quart baffled oil pan and long tube headers on his corvette and know finds he will need to remove the headers to take off the original oil filter hes used for years before he can do oil changes, and hes panicking ! I have to GRIN! that's almost to be expected and the common cure is an adapter plate and a remote mounted oil filter.
you gentlemen are aware , there's a solution,?
If you want a remote mount oil filter these parts will get you a good start

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CTR-22-592/

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4904

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TRD-1222/

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/trd-1120/overview/

one huge advantage of the remote filter mount option is the option to use one or two far larger oil filters and mount them where they are easy to access.

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[NOT A TA]

I'll probably be adding a remote filtering system to my Firebird during reassembly because of exhaust system changes. Haven't decided on a particular one yet or if I'll also add an Accusump. I've always wondered about how the remote system affects the oiling pressure, volume, etc. Have to learn more before deciding on a plan of action.

 

[philly]

seems legit... guys have to realize theres very little left in this day and age that hasnt already been done, so the remedies to hang ups like this are out there. just gotta know where to look.

 

[87vette81big]

I'll probably be adding a remote filtering system to my Firebird during reassembly because of exhaust system changes. Haven't decided on a particular one yet or if I'll also add an Accusump. I've always wondered about how the remote system affects the oiling pressure, volume, etc. Have to learn more before deciding on a plan of action.

The Pontiac V8 Remote oil filter kit has been around a long time now.
At least since 1987 when I came on board to the Pontiac Band wagon.
I haven't ever used yet on my own.
Some guys say there is a 5-15 psi pressure drop with remote oil filter systems & oil coolers.
Best with #10 or 12 AN Say there is a 5psi pressure drop.
The Pontiac guys here all drag race. Seen plenty of 9-second ET Ponchos use the stock Oil filter right angle adapter. 900-1,000 Hp.

Run the best you can afford without going broke.
Most guys are broke do fancy oil system mods not done.

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[87vette81big]

I would like to dp a MOROSO Wet style external mounted oil pump on a Pontiac V8.
Take all the load off the camshaft drive gear.
No wear issues then with bronze distributor gears.
Runs off the front of crankshaft with a Gilmore drive belt.
Its a $1k mod to do.

Necessary on Fast Drag Race Wheel Standing drag rear bumber cars.
When they come down hard its on the Front suspension rubber bounce stops.
Oil pan sometimes gets smashed & stock mounted internal oil pump snapped off.

Dry sump or external wet oil pump solves that issue.

Just $$$&&$$$ if you have it.

 

[NOT A TA]

I don't have a grand for a system. The Canton road race pan I put on the engine also has dry sump provisions so that gives me other options. Also, I do have a remote filter setup for single filter that was on the engine previously when the engine was in a 68 Judge clone I pulled the engine out of. That car was set up as more of a street/strip car and the remote filter setup was probably installed for header clearance.

5-15 lb pressure drop doesn't sound like a good idea for a car that sees 20-30 minute sessions on track on full throttle/full brake/full throttle action.

 

[grumpyvette]

pressure drops with remote coolers or filter mounts are almost always the result of using hydraulic lines AND hydraulic line connections with too small an INTERNAL cross sectional area, anything less than AN#8 is bound to be restrictive and AN#10 is far better, and much less likely to cause issues with pressure drops, obviously the adapters and fittings used for fluid transmission must also have at least AN# 8 OR PREFERABLY AN#10 CONNECTIONS , if you run 3/8" OR AN#6 LINES YOUR BOUND TO FIND IT DROPS RETURN LINE PRESSURE, and just as obviously this would mean the passage or tube size of the oil cooler must be at least AN#8 as the coolers with AN#6 internal passages tend to restrict flow so read carefully before you buy an oil or trans cooler

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[87vette81big]

I would follow at least some of Grumpys guidelines for your 1970 Bird.
Your Endurance Racing.
Much different than what I do. Drag & Street.

I read many of Herb Adams Vintage articles.
He was an outstanding Chassis Engineer.
Not such a great engine builder in my opinion.
He lost many Pontiac Engines and DNF.
Sad.
Remember he quit Pontiac & went off on his own.

Malcomn McKeller the real Brains behind the Pontiac V8.
Head Engine Engineer till he retired in 1981.

Race engines that won in SCCA Trans Am Pontiac done by Warren Brownfield.
All 1970 RAM AIR 4 ENGINES.