why is it so difficult for some guys to think things through?

Grumpy

The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer.
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I recently got into a discussion with one of my hunting friends over selecting the best pistol to use for hunting.
now anyone with experience will tell you a carbine has some advantages over a pistol in accuracy and range, but if you want a challenge, a pistol does take , more practice and experience , to master.
"Obviously where your hunting and what your hunting and the likely ranges and conditions under which you'll be hunting would or at least should, have a big effect on your choices"
he asked me if he could borrow one of my Glock model 20, 10mm pistols,
that I had installed a longer 6" stainless barrel into, that looks identical to this internet picture I found, with a 6" aftermarket barrel that increases velocity.
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a few months back, before the florida hunting season opened ,
and he returned it in good shape, and he found that he was rather impressed with the accuracy,in almost all cases youll find a balance or compromise must be found between power, portability, ease of use ,accuracy , and lethality , and a Glock 10mm pistol in stock condition gives up some power and long range accuracy to gain easy portability , large magazine capacity and ease of use.
He was impressed with its reasonably low recoil and how effective that pistol was.
He was so impressed that he has decided to buy a new glock model 40,
with its similar longer 10mm 6" barrel
while thats a darn good and effective choice,
it was the accessories he wanted to add to it,
that brought up questions in my mind, The glock model 40 would be a darn good option, as it came from the factory.
now when you find something that works well, why would you drastically make changes, too it?


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the new glock model 40 10 mm can be purchased for about $700 or a bit less ,if you shop and it offer's decent performance , reasonable accuracy, and by todays prices this is not a bad bargain, in a hunting pistol. keep in mind that decent ammo in a 10 mm either hand loads or factory available ammo from sources like buffalo bore allow you to have about 700 ft lbs of muzzle energy and 2" 50 yard groups that will allow you to kill game as large as elk if you get into under about 60 yards , can shoot consistent tight groups and have a good knowledge of game anatomy. now up to this point I figured, he had made a decent choice
(personally I prefer a revolver like a 44 mag or 445 DWSM, with a bit more punch,) and after decades of hunts I think a 8"-10" 41 mag or 44 mag revolver would be an excellent choice, remember you'll rarely get more than one or two shots at game on a hunt so a large magazine capacity is of little advantage) (but for a personal defensive weapon , thats compact and easy too carry ,if your in grizzly country,I can see the advantage)
but I've shot a few deer and hogs with a 10 mm and it certainly works in practiced hands) and over the decades, more than a few large and even dangerous animals like bears have been killed very dead with a 357 mag (which is a bit less powerful) than a 10 mm



but its the bullet that does ALL the damage and its the shooters skill that with practice allows precise shot placement.

now the part I did not quite understand..
.was that he wanted to buy what would be a nice accurate and easy to carry pistol , (the glock model 40 10 MM) but he then wanted to know how to mount a large pistol scope on the Glock,
which would effectively make it much less handy to use in my opinion,
and since , the 10mm is not an exceptionally good long range caliber ,
I have to question the need to employ a scope sight!
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theres dozens of LAZER pointer sights and optical red dot sites that don,t cause an issue and help a shooter hit the target, if your older and your eyes can use some help these are good options

but he wants to mount a pistol scope?

while theres zero doubt it will fit,
function and aid accuracy, and obviously its his choice and right to do so,
I can,t help but feel the bulk and size and complexity make this less than ideal, especially when I think back on decades of hunts and ranges rarely exceed 30-40 yards, and games generally moving through brush so even iron sights work fine!
what hes effectively doing is doubling the price and complexity of a tool used for hunting with at least in my opinion little benefit to be derived from the extra cash outlay!
it will be interesting to see the results!
I may be wrong, but i think this will be a $1400 solution to a $700 question.

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similar to this picture I found
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http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=10 mm&Weight=All&type=Handgun

http://www.doubletapammo.net/index.php?route=product/category&path=126_134

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=114
 
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