I was asked why I don.t own a ruger 480 handgun?

Grumpy

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I was asked why I don't own a ruger 480 handgun?
like many other people ,I think its a good newer pistol and a ,a darn good, newer cartridge.

but in my case other options are marginally better in my case.
I own a couple 44 mag revolvers, a 500 S&W, and a couple 445 DWSM revolvers,
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making owning a newer 480 ruger, a low priority, for me personally,
but if I had not owned any hunting caliber handguns a 480 ruger would be in the top 4-5 options, as its certainly more than powerful enought to be effective and obviously if you handload you can custom taylor the power level and projectile used.
when you look at a potential handgun purchase you generally should ask yourself ,

what is the handgun to be used for and is there an ideal or better option.
well the price, OF THE 480 RUGER, is very close to what you'll pay for a 500 S&W,
and for hunting I think the 500 mag with a 7.5" barrel is a MARGINALLY better option,
I must not be alone thinking this way as ruger has stopped manufacturing 480 ruger chambered pistols at least for now!

AND for defensive work a 44 mag I ALREADY OWN, seems adequate and for hunting,
I think the 500 mag has some advantages, having used a 10" 44 mag revolver for 4 decades,
keep in mint the 480 ruger has a larger diameter case that's approximately the same length as a common 44 mag making it fit in the more common large revolver frame sizes, thus unlike the 500 SMITH AND WESSON or 445 dan wesson not requiring the larger extended frame revolver designs that significantly increase a revolvers size and weight over the size that the older 357 mag, 44 mag and 45 lc required.
the 480 ruger if correctly hand loaded potentially has about 40% more power than the 44 mag making it impressively powerful without having to work with the massively increased pressure levels of the 454 casull.
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I don't see the real need for a 480 ruger even though many of my friends own them, and yeah,
its almost the ideal compromise if you handload,

in that, if properly loaded, there's considerably more power than a 44 mag with far lower recoil than a 500 mag.
Im impressed with them,(the 480 ruger handguns) as I handload for those guys
SO FOR MY LARGER HUNTING HANDGUN OPTION I WENT WITH THE 500 MAG/7.5" VERSION.
not that I really needed one!
I'VE KILLED ELK WITH MY 44 MAG 10" REVOLVER SO ADDED POWER, is OF LIMITED VALUE!:like:

the 480 ruger chambered revolvers fall between the two extremes in size and power,
making it a bit less practical in either usage. but a MUCH better compromise,
if your an experienced handgunner, in a hunting handgun in most people's hands
(especially if you handload and cast your own bullets)
now I see the option, but I think many potential buyers think,

like I have,,, and find they would rather go with one or the other extreme ,
not a compromise between the two, options.
(that's most likely a mistake, as the 480
offers both increased power over a 44 mag, and less recoil than the 500 mag,
and in some cases, a marginally smaller frame revolver that's easier to carry and holster)

at least in theory the 480 ruger cartridge makes a great deal of sense,
its almost ideally sized in my opinion and in its potential power range,

and physically it is cartridge length is shorter in length enough to allow handguns designs ,
thus chambered in slightly smaller cartridges like the 44 mag, and 454 casull,
to be modified to shoot the 480 ruger cartridges ,
with some obvious mods required, unlike the 460 S&W and 500 S&W and 445 DWSM cartridges

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44 mag vs 480 ruger pictured below there's about a 50% greater
power increase available in the 480 ruger over the 44 mag with proper ammo selection.
and the ruger offers a single action version, that's much better for a belt holster carry, in a hunting handgun
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the 500 mag has easily a 60%-90% greater power potential over the 480 ruger
especially with proper handloads, and handloads in either handgun can reduce ammo cost by over 60% per shot
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but it seems like ruger has discontinued production of handguns so chambered, so ammos sure to be difficult to find in 10-20 years.
now the 44 mag is sure up to handling deer and hogs at shorter ranges , but it lacks the mass / velocity and energy to definitively anchor larger dangerous game at bayonet ranges it throes a 240-300 grain bullet at between about 1200-1400 fps dependent on barrel length, the 460-500 S&W revolvers are certainly up to the job with correct handloads, as a 440 grain bullet can be pushed to 1300-1600 fps,

but are to large in physical size and weight to easily work as a holstered belt carry revolver.
the 480 revolvers fall mid way in both power and size. throwing a 325-370 grain bullet to 1300-1400 fps in a much easier to carry handgun size,
I think ruger is making a huge mistake in the discontinuation of the handguns so chambered in 480 ruger, as they potentially provide devastating power in a controllable sized handgun.


for defensive work around camp having a handgun throw a 240-500 grain bullet out at at least 1200 fps makes a handgun
potentially very lethal in the hands of a good shot.
guns like a glock 10mm have a 15 shot magazine but your very unlikely to have the time in a bear charge scenario to get off more than 1-3 shots
a 10mm GLOCK or similar semi auto, or a 357 mag revolver, may provide you with 600-700 ft lbs of energy per shot fired,
and adequate penetration, with proper ammo, and its easy to carry in a belt holster,

but it is in my opinion borderline marginal, in power if my butts survival is on the line!
I doubt you can find a easy to carry handgun that's vastly superior to a 480 ruger snubbie on your belt/ but all choices require compromises
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for hunting a longer barrel version, than a 2.5"-3" 480 ruger, snubbie,
is certainly up to dropping elk or bears at 50-150 yard ranges,
without the same bulk weight or recoil of the 460-500 S&W mag revolvers
as I've stated before you calculate power with this formula
bullet weight x velocity x velocity at impact range, divided by 450240 to get impact energy
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yeah for self defensive work like around camp in bear county, I think the rugger snubbie has a distinct advantage over the larger 500 S&W handguns, but as a pure hunting handgun I think the 460-500 S&W revolvers hold a noticeable edge,
yet there's no denying the ruger 480 certainly has enough power.
all choices require compromise in some areas.
if you want a hunting handgun I think a 460 S&W or 500 S&W with a 6"-10" barrel have advantages
obviously ammo choice and your option to handload both provide options you should look at seriously

notice the 44 mag mod 29 vs the x frame 500 mag size difference
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as stated above I personally don't really have a use for a 480 ruger,
yet having several friends who do,
and if I did not own several very high quality big bore revolvers and was just getting into handgun hunting,
ID really consider a 6.5"-9.5" barreled ruger double action revolver in caliber 480 ruger ,
as a handgun cartridge it is about my or your best and most reasonably priced option in a large bore revolver,
and while its absurdly overpowered for personal defensive use unless you handload custom ammo,
a 480 ruger snub nose (2.5" barrel) is an impressively powerful option, yes its limited in cartridge capacity,
but a center mass hit on any human aggressors, sure to get their full attention instantly.
you could easily handload those 400 grain hard cast bullets down to about 900-950 fps for defensive use
or find a 300-325 grain hard cast bullet to use to significantly reduce recoil in a personal defensive handgun
to use at reduced load velocity to significantly reduce recoil even further,
at 900 fps your power on paper with the 400 grain loads is just a bit more than the hottest 10mm loads
you could load a 325 grain cast bullet to about 1000 fps and get a darn effective,
personal defensive load in the ruger snub nose revolver.,
but with the bullet being significantly heavier, and larger in diameter there's no real contest on which would be more lethal.
and you have a revolver loaded with slightly reduced power ammo,
that would hit like a 44 mag with almost full power loads from a similar barrel length
keep in mind your almost forced to cast your own bullets and HANDLOADING YOUR OWN AMMO,
if you own any of the big bore revolvers as the cost of reloaded cast bullet ammo,
can be reduced by 50%-75% or LESS EXPENSIVE THAN FACTORY AMMO.
Keep in mind a properly loaded 480 ruger in a longer barrel revolver has,
close to 70-75% of the power potential of a 500 S&W mag ,
or about 40% -50% more power than the hotter 44 mag loads,
thus it's at least on paper potentially much more effective than a 44 mag with similar shot placement ,
without the recoil of the 500 S&W mag at max loads.


I recently spent a couple hours with a friend at a local outdoor public range,
I brought one of my 10& 5/8" S&W 44 mag revolvers he had a 9.5" ruger super redhawk,
the more I watched him and occasionally shot the revolver the more I felt it was a decent hunting option
yes the recoil was a bit more than my 44 mag, but certainly not abusive, easily something any experienced handgun
enthusiast will master. both of use needed more practice as we both had a bit of difficulty keeping really tight 50 yard groups,
but the groups improved dramatically after we
practiced,
(its been a few months since I was at the range, and consistent handgun accuracy is a perishable skill.)




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btw here's a useful formula
bullet weight in grains,
times velocity
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times velocity,
divided by 450240
gives you the potential energy


if you compare a common 500 S&W load pushing a 480 grain bullet to about 1370 fps
results in about a muzzle energy level near 2000 ft lbs
absolutely absurd for a personal defense load, as you would punch through most walls,

and potentially hurt unintended people well behind the intended target,
after it effortlessly passed through your assailant.
(and yes you could obviously reload far lower power cartridges ),
but the S&W revolver is still significantly larger and heavier than the ruger 480 snubby revolver


the suggested 325 grain load with a cast bullet at 1000 fps results in about a 720 ft lbs at the muzzle energy level
the suggested 400 grain load with a cast bullet at 900 fps results in about a 720 ft lbs at the muzzle energy level
compare that to a 44 mag pushing a 240 grain load at about 1100 fps, from a snubby revolver, you get about 645 ft lbs
or a 10mm pushing a 180 grain bullet to about 1250 ft lbs at about 625 ft lbs
or a 357 mag pushing a 125 grain bullet from a snub BARREL REVOLVER AT ABOUT 1300 FPS+ about 470 ft lbs

do your own research into loads and velocity, and yes ,
if you handload, and cast your own bullet choices,

you can get hand loaded ammo,
Id try to keep personal defense loads in the 550 ft lbs-750 ft lbs range,
to be both effective and yet not overpowered
loads custom
tailored to your needs :like:

BTW for HUNTING WITH CAST BULLETS

you want to push to the max safe velocity,
that gives the best consistent accuracy
(btw in some states a hunting handgun must have a specific muzzle energy minimum

and minimum barrel length , and caliber so check your state's hunting regs)

( BTW POWER is not as important as precise shot placement,

I've killed several big deer with an 8.375" 357 mag with cast bullets very easily)
(but it never hurts to have a larger and heavier bullet if what your hunting larger game that can get nasty,

and potentially tear you to shreds, if you don't place the first shot ideally either) :facepalm: :worried:
it also helps if you have a buddy along on that hunt that's well practiced and well armed if that's the case
having a buddy you can trust with a 45/70 or MARLIN 450 lever action, able to back you up,
standing next to you if charged might be a good option
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suggested bullet weights :like:
357 mag= 158 grain-180 grain
41 mag= 220 grain-250 grain
44 mag= 270 grain-320 grain
45 caliber -300 grain-350 grain
480 caliber 350 grain-400 grain
50 caliber 400 grain-480 grain

 
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