think it through and don,t scrimp where it counts!

Grumpy · Feb 4, 2019

If you gentlemen read the local community news papers
(I try not to most of the time)
youll see adds for yard sales ( those can be a good thing on rare occasions)
but youll also rather commonly see local interest stories,
where some guy got injured or killed in a home fire a garage accident ,
or some guy who got electrocuted,
doing a home project without the required skills and knowledge.

I recently read a short story where a guy installed a car lift
(brand and type not listed)
that collapsed with the car up on it,
the guy luckily was not under the car when it failed,
another story involved a local dentist who died doing upgrades on his office,
when he electrocuted himself trying to install wiring for a new office wiring.
another story was about a guy who was robbed in his open two car garage,
open in his drive way,
and the guy was badly beaten, and was not found for hours.
most of us see similar stories on a regular basis and the recurring theme,
guys don,t think through what might happen, and think safety!
many of these stories involve, some guy who was trying to save money ,
or install some tool like a lift in a home shop, or do some upgrade,renovation,
without the proper skills or experience,
or he gets hurt because he purchased , or improperly installed,
the cheapest crap he could find to do a job,
it really was not designed to do.
or some guy gave little or no thought to his personal security or home security options.
think things through!
you tend to get what you pay for, and if two similar products are priced more than a few hundred dollars differently ,
THERES FREQUENTLY A DARN GOOD REASON.
higher quality materials and precision work costs more!
If you have no experience doing some job,
either do the required research and buy the required tools,
or in many cases its really cheaper and faster to hire a PRO ,
with experience,
who has the tools and skills to do the job correctly.
and its unfortunate but theres about 1%-2% of the population that thinks everyone elses property is up for grabs!

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/a-car-lift-in-your-shop.98/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/building-a-concrete-slab-to-work-on.5007/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...garage-plans-some-build-info-experiances.116/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/under-car-safety.26/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/shop-drainage.5035/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/garage-security.297/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/got-your-fire-extinguisher-handy.81/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/garage-plans.15128/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/thinking-of-building-a-shop.10656/

chasracer · Feb 13, 2019

Agreed. I was really fortunate that I sorta of "grew up" in the phone company. It's not the same today of course but back then every month without fail you had a safety lesson of some type. And it wasn't just handing you a piece of paper and telling you to read it. It was demonstrations, real-world situations and at least once a year testing on basic safety. Things like examining a screwdriver or pliers for defects so that you won't get injured or how to check a ladder to make sure it is safe. We used to go to CPR training every two years, First Aid training every other year. Lots of time, you just did it and figured it was time away from the real job but what is amazing is how much of this stuff I have retained. And the sad part is how many times I have had to call upon that training to help someone or myself. I catch my boys sometimes starting to do something and I will let them know or show them a safer way to get it accomplished. Heck, my wife has a business desk in the home and she used to leave a drawer open until I kept harping about the possible injury that could occur if her of me forgot about it and ran into it. Just stuff like that can make a difference.

Grumpy · Oct 11, 2019

I was recently asked why I selected a two-post lift vs a 4 post lift for my shop,
by a neighbor building a garage,
the reason is rather obvious if you work on cars frequently,
a good two-post lift supports the car on its frame giving full access,
to the wheels and drive train,
you can do most jobs with either lift design, but the four post requires a sliding jack support and jack in addition too the basic lift
while most four-post lifts are designed for easy car storage up out of the way ,
allowing a second car to be parked under the lifted car,
effectively allowing a second car in the footprint of the original car on the floor.
a two post lift can also allow a second car to be parked under a lifted car,
but it takes a bit more effort to lift the first car,
as your need to get out ,and need to locate the lift arms,
under the first cars frame before its raised,
the choice in my opinion depends mostly on the lifts main use...
are you working on cars or storing one to get more floor space?

Ive worked on cars for over 55 years, a good high quality , two post lift being more versatile,
is what I selected and use in my shop, yeah its certainly not as easy to get the car up and off the floor, with a two post lift but taking a few extra minutes allows far easier access.
theres zero question, they are not as easy to use if simply lifting the car is the only required function. but access to the cars or trucks,wheels and suspension of the car, drive train is better with a quality two post lift

think it through and don,t scrimp where it counts!

Grumpy

The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer.

chasracer

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Grumpy

The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer.