41 mag related info

Grumpy

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one of the guys I hunted with for 5 decades in florida just bought a 8 3/8" S&W model 57, revolver in 41 mag and since I have recently moved to texas he wanted to know what I prefered to load as many of the guys I had loaded ammo for decades don't handload or cast bullets. (you want max accuracy and deep penetration in a hunting handgun)
(and everyone he knows said the ammo I loaded worked great.) I stated Id cast and used a 240 grain, 41 caliber hard cast bullet over h110 powder)

btw, in my testing a 41 mag using jacketed hollow point bullets penetrate FAR less consistently than a decent hard cast 220-245 grain, bullet!
(that would be great for personal defense but NOT FOR HUNTING!. where the hard cast 41 mag revolvers have proven much more consistent for deep penetration, and a better killer)THE 41 mag is one of the least common cartridge choices, but in my experience it's far better than either the 10mm 45 acp ,45 colt, 9mm,or 357 mag when properly loaded .
for many people the 41 mag is about the max power level, recoil and muzzle blast level easily mastered with some practice, although the 44 mag is only a little more powerful it seems to be over the tolerable limit for many people that don't regularly practice, the 41 mag seems to pack a very health punch without the marginally increased and seemingly objectionable limit that most people will not easily tolerate without extensive practice.
I've seen enough deer and hogs shot with both the properly loaded 44 and 41 mag to assure you the difference in results on those game is marginal if any.
I'm not a master handgunner or an exceptionally great shot but I do have over 5 decades of experience hunting successfully with handguns . (mostly for deer and hogs in mid fla. and deer & elk in colorado.) successful handgun hunters need extensive practice and ranges for successful shots made in my experience rarely exceed 70-80 yards, in florida its probably closer to 30-35 yards on hogs and 40-50 yards on deer.


its a real P.I.T.A. that places like NEI and NOE no longer sell as many bullet designs




the 41 mag revolver if chambered in a revolver with at least a 4" barrel and ideally a 6"-8" barrel and when properly loaded with a hard cast gas check bullet's,( the ruger and S&W revolvers prefered)
ARE in my experience significantly better or more potentially powerful than a 10mm semi auto ,
having cast these bullets and hand loaded for several of the local guys, its a big improvement over the 357 mag, in lethality, and only a bit less powerful than the common 44 mag but noticeably better than a 357 mag for hunting deer & hogs etc.
the problem is that you are forced to or almost must handload and cast your own ammo to get quality ammo as the 41 mag is much less common and ammos harder to locate.
several of the guys I hunted with for decades prefered the 41 mag revolver over almost anything else in a handgun.
H110 powder was prefered as was the 210-220 grain bullet weight with a few guys liking the 245 grain better/
remember that with most handguns your unlikely to get results that differ a great deal from what you see with archery, IE, game tends to run after its hit and shot placements very critical


now personally I think the 300 grain 44 mag S&W 10" barrel revolver is a much better hunting handgun choice, but many of my friends prefer the lighter weight and lower recoil in the 357-41 mag revolvers, keep in mind most of us hunt thicker brush where shots, are usually WELL under 60 yards and use of open iron sights are very common







 
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Ive had a good deal of experience hunting with several handguns
357 mag, 45 acp, 41 mag, 44 mag, 445 DWSM and 500 S&W mag
and a few others, with ALL handguns shot placement is critical, its a sound plan,
to limit shot to the range where you can consistently place all your shouts in a 5" circle
while I've killed an elk with a 44 mag, most of the other handguns were used on hogs and deer
handgun hunting is a bit like archery in that shot placement is VERY critical ,and its best if you practice a great deal and try to limit shots to the distance you can consistently place all your shots in a 4"-5" diameter circle
and keep in mind, you seldom get near instant kills, game tends to run even with perfect shot placement,
proper handloads with a heavy for caliber , hard cast (generally a gas check bullet design )
projectile pushed to near the most speed you can achieve safely will give best results
and ALL of them handgun calibers worked reasonably well ,but there's no doubt that the longer barrel revolvers in 41 ,mag,
and larger hold a very noticeable advantage in lethality when properly loaded
 
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watch the video, the result in that video is typical to the result you'll tend to get with most handguns,
now if you need faster kills, the larger 445 DWSM, 480 ruger and 500 mag all tend to get faster kills
 
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shot placement is critical if you don't want to loose game, trailing a wounded animal in heavy cover is NOT always easy
even with a decent blood trail, holly points can fail to punch through and leave an exit wound making tracking much harder
shot result was typical of shot placement hitting a bit low and a bit further back than ideal.
the video looks like he hit area (D) thats always lethal but it frequently results in long death run
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I've never seen a guy who did not reload a revolver while hunting ,after firing 4-5 shots ,
before starting to trail wounded game before watching this video
I know everyone I hunt with would have reloaded ,before starting to trail wounded game

but the result of the revolver shot looked typical for the too far back and too low lung shot, which was actually decent average shooting, as most of the hunts I've made for 5 decades had shot opportunities, or shots made at what appeared to be less than half that distance.
at least in florida areas I hunt open areas like that are rather rare.

btw if you use the LEE 310 grain
hard cast gas check bullet cast from 95% wheel weights and 5% pure tin, bullets in the 44 mag or the 240-250 grain hard cast bullets in the 41 mag, hard cast bullets tend to exit all game from most angles
easily having noticeably better and more consistent penetration than jacketed hollow point bullets.
hollow points work well on heart lung shots but occasionally fail to break bone, and having an exit wound, and entrance, leaves a much better blood trail.
 
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