before committing to an expensive ELK hunt..take the time to hunt with any potential new hunting partners to find out how willing they are to help with chores, kick in with expenses and generally get a feel for their, firearms skill and safety, and general compatibility as a hunt partner.
http://wildlife.state.co.us/NR/rdonlyre ... fleElk.pdf
one hunter posted this about a trip he took
"I once some 10 years ago had the opportunity to kill a 370 bull or better with my bolt action, .338 Win mag and 225 grain bullets. Now there were 2 hunters and a young elk guide, the other hunter used a Browning Bar in the .300 mag caliber. We were some 500 yards from the main herd bull and around 350 from some satellite bulls and 40 head of cows. We were above them in a line of timber over looking the herd. I tell the guide that it is far to far to shoot and we must back off into the timber and work our way up closer."
Now while this discussion is going on between the guide and myself, this other hunter stands up and walks out into the clear with this rifle. All those cows got drift of him in less than 30 seconds. He is wearing a cheap blue rains suit also. He stood out like a sore thumb. However, the real problem is when he reached into his jacket and took out live cartridge and placed it into the chamber of his rifle, then "slams" the action shut!!! You could hear that noise the action closing made for a 1/2 mile away. Now needless to say my attempted stalk on the big bull was fruitless. No more 2 on 1 guided hunts for this elk hunter period.
we all have found that the guy next to us at one time turned out to be someone we never want to hunt with again for a dozen reasons..
theres always been and there always will be a few IDIOTS that have access to firearms
that, one experience you may have doesn,t have any effect on that particular rifle they use, or action type, other than in that single circumstance that particular idiot happened to have access to it at that time. but your spending a great deal of time and money youll never recover if your teamed up with an idiot on any elk hunt, the point about the advantage of having a single guide per hunter is obviously a good valid point, because one guide can,t really watch two or more hunters 100% of the time.
SO is the advice of always hunt locally on, at least one or better yet two over night camping/hunting trips before committing to spending the time and money on a 2 week hunt out of state with any new hunter in your camp.
many of us have had similar experiences, one guy I got teamed up with INSISTED on constantly smoking huge stinky cigars even when the guide insisted he leave all of them in camp, another guy I got teamed with actually believed his rem 700,7mm rem mag, that was bore sighted at the gun shop required no further range sighting work and required zero hold over at 500-700 yard ranges, and blamed the ammo when he missed shooting off hand at 100 yard mule deer.
that's one reason our elk hunt group hunts deer locally, and meets at the range once a month, it tends to weed out the morons BEFORE out of state hunts
http://wildlife.state.co.us/NR/rdonlyre ... fleElk.pdf
one hunter posted this about a trip he took
"I once some 10 years ago had the opportunity to kill a 370 bull or better with my bolt action, .338 Win mag and 225 grain bullets. Now there were 2 hunters and a young elk guide, the other hunter used a Browning Bar in the .300 mag caliber. We were some 500 yards from the main herd bull and around 350 from some satellite bulls and 40 head of cows. We were above them in a line of timber over looking the herd. I tell the guide that it is far to far to shoot and we must back off into the timber and work our way up closer."
Now while this discussion is going on between the guide and myself, this other hunter stands up and walks out into the clear with this rifle. All those cows got drift of him in less than 30 seconds. He is wearing a cheap blue rains suit also. He stood out like a sore thumb. However, the real problem is when he reached into his jacket and took out live cartridge and placed it into the chamber of his rifle, then "slams" the action shut!!! You could hear that noise the action closing made for a 1/2 mile away. Now needless to say my attempted stalk on the big bull was fruitless. No more 2 on 1 guided hunts for this elk hunter period.
we all have found that the guy next to us at one time turned out to be someone we never want to hunt with again for a dozen reasons..
theres always been and there always will be a few IDIOTS that have access to firearms
that, one experience you may have doesn,t have any effect on that particular rifle they use, or action type, other than in that single circumstance that particular idiot happened to have access to it at that time. but your spending a great deal of time and money youll never recover if your teamed up with an idiot on any elk hunt, the point about the advantage of having a single guide per hunter is obviously a good valid point, because one guide can,t really watch two or more hunters 100% of the time.
SO is the advice of always hunt locally on, at least one or better yet two over night camping/hunting trips before committing to spending the time and money on a 2 week hunt out of state with any new hunter in your camp.
many of us have had similar experiences, one guy I got teamed up with INSISTED on constantly smoking huge stinky cigars even when the guide insisted he leave all of them in camp, another guy I got teamed with actually believed his rem 700,7mm rem mag, that was bore sighted at the gun shop required no further range sighting work and required zero hold over at 500-700 yard ranges, and blamed the ammo when he missed shooting off hand at 100 yard mule deer.
that's one reason our elk hunt group hunts deer locally, and meets at the range once a month, it tends to weed out the morons BEFORE out of state hunts