better brake pads? and drum wear?

Discussion in 'Suspension and Brakes: Repairs and Modifications' started by Grumpy, Aug 27, 2017.

  1. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member


    all brake shoes by design will cause some wear, but ID suggest the ceramic brake shoes as they leave noticeably less residual dust and seem too wear well, and not cause quite as much drum or rotor wear in my experience vs semi metallic (much cleaner with ceramic shoes) obviously the weight of the car or truck and how fast you drive and how often you brake effects wear.


    http://www.sears.com/articles/autom...MI-rnz-b731QIViYp-Ch02jgffEAAYBCAAEgLVbfD_BwE

    you might want to try premium ceramic brace pads , they have in my experience lasted a bit longer and done less wear to the rotors than the metallic pads, and they don,t puke as much debris
    https://www.corvettemods.com/C4-Corvette-1984-1996-Hyper-Ceramic-Brake-Pads-_p_14378.html

    https://www.vbandp.com/c4-corvettes...-96-hawk-ceramic-front-brake-pads-detail.html

    https://thmotorsports.com/i-1823350...MIhPSQ96PE2AIVBB1pCh0FKwkKEAYYAyABEgJGfPD_BwE

    http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...+v8,1326305,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+shoe,1688

    http://www.monroebrakes.com/catalog/e-catalog

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/trouble-shooting-brakes-3.380/#post-463

    and of course theres the option of upgrading to larger disc brakes
    http://www.partsgeek.com/12wccyb-ch...chevrolet+brake+conversion+kit&ad=11620898036

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/trouble-shooting-brakes-2.972/#post-70468

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/trouble-shooting-brakes-1.526/#post-4722

    http://www.stoptech.com/technical-support/technical-white-papers/-warped-brake-disc-and-other-myths

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/under-car-safety.26/

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/brake-pads.5241/#post-32212
     
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2018
  2. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey mechanical engineer. Staff Member



    first ID point out that theres a HUGE difference in the amounts of potential , stress and wear and heat your subjecting the rotors and pads to under racing vs street driving conditions.
    ID also pint out that the materials and diameter of the rotor have a very noticeable effect on the pad and brake rotor wear rates.
    stock brakes tend to fade once they get over heated as the stock brakes are not designed for true racing applications.
    anytime you have serious questions on an upgrade it pays to do an internet search and ask questions, from at least 4-5 different tech support teams as to what you need and then compare notes. prices features, repair or upgrade difficulty and required changes that may be necessary to upgrade

    BTW SHORT story

    one of the guys I was helping locally failed to ask enough questions on a brake upgrade ,
    he purchased much larger disc brakes for his 1985 corvette and
    adapter plates etc.
    once he put the car up on jack stands and had installed significantly larger and much better quality disc brakes,
    with multi piston calipers on both the front and rear axles ,
    he went to re-mount the stock rims only to find they would not clear the significantly larger diameter brakes,
    so he needed to spend considerably more cash on new wheels and tires,

    that would clear the better and significantly larger diameter, disc brakes
    (an
    expense he had not anticipated going into the mods,
    but one he later was very happy with)


    related thread

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/upgrading-your-c4-to-c5-brakes.13/

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/trouble-shooting-brakes-2.972/#post-70468

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/trouble-shooting-brakes-3.380/#post-463

    IF you call some of the more performance oriented brake suppliers they can suggest both rotors and pad materials designed for the increased and much higher heat levels
    several vendors can supply higher heat level brake pad designs and larger diameter brake rotors made from a different alloy and with larger cooling vents.

    racing brakes are considered an expendable and expected, to be frequently replaceable wear item like tires


    http://www.brembo.com/en/company/news/corvette-grand-sport-brembo-brakes

    brembo, wildwood stoptech


    https://www.vividracing.com/catalog...MIq9vyvu-82AIVxiWBCh0gbgTkEAQYAyABEgIwSvD_BwE

    http://www.brakewarehouse.com/brake...MI_dCuofS82AIVGrjACh3EZQKmEAAYAyAAEgL0hfD_BwE

    https://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brakes.jsp?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIq9vyvu-82AIVxiWBCh0gbgTkEAQYASABEgLCWvD_BwE&make=StopTech&model=355mm+ST60+Big+Brake+Kit&partnum=ST83.187.6700.71&GCID=C13674x012-brakes&KEYWORD=brakes_StopTech_355mm,_ST60_Big_Brake_Kit___&code=yes&autoMake=Chevrolet&autoModel=Corvette+C6+Coupe&autoYear=2012&autoModClar=Standard+Model&checkVehicle=&src=17540115&ci_sku=ST83.187.6700.71&ci_sku=ST83.187.6700.71&ci_src=17588969&s_kwcid=AL!3756!3!76743425533!!!s!119303236573!&ef_id=WKdB@wAAAKDUs6db:20180103224527:s

    https://www.carid.com/2008-chevy-corvette-brakes/

    https://www.vividracing.com/catalog/index.php?keywords=2008+corvette+racing+brake+pads+and+rotors


    https://www.vividracing.com/catalog/big-brake-kits-c-4862.html

    https://www.vividracing.com/catalog/big-brake-kits-c-4862.html?manufacturers_id=117

    http://mqauto.it/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Brembo-Sport-Pastiglie-2017.pdf

    http://www.wilwood.com/TechTip/TechContact.aspx





     
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2018
  3. dawsonc

    dawsonc Member

    My car has Carbotech ceramic pads and I have no complaints. Offers great bite, low noise and low dusting.
     

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