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kevsvette

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I was wondering if you could straighten me out on some things concerning shop/service manuals.

One of the major parts suppliers sells a package deal with the Shop Manual & the Electrical Diagnosis Manual (ST 364-86) for $109 (2 books).
http://www.mamotorworks.com/corvette.html?frame=1.197&searched=factory service manuals

Helm sells the Shop Manual for $89 & in the description it seems that contains the Schematics & Routing diagrams? Are these the same thing, or is the package deal different giving you an added benefit.
http://www.helminc.com/helm/product...from=result&Style=helm&Sku=ST36486&itemtype=B

I read somewhere that those Service manuals in Red are a final copy that includes all updates for that given year, do you know anything about this? The reason why I ask is I found a supplement to the service manual & didn't know if that is something else I should buy?
http://www.factoryautomanuals.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FA91247VG

I was really looking for information on bleeding the brakes on a 1986 vette & thought it would be beneficial to have for other things as well.
http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c4- ... -info.html
What do you think about these

http://www.mamotorworks.com/corvette?frame=1.5597

http://www.mamotorworks.com/corvette-1-0-605.html
 
http://www.helminc.com/helm/homepage.asp?

has the shop manuals your want

kevsvette said:
I was wondering if you could straighten me out on some things concerning shop/service manuals.

One of the major parts suppliers sells a package deal with the Shop Manual & the Electrical Diagnosis Manual (ST 364-86) for $109 (2 books).
http://www.mamotorworks.com/corvette.html?frame=1.197&searched=factory service manuals

Helm sells the Shop Manual for $89 & in the description it seems that contains the Schematics & Routing diagrams? Are these the same thing, or is the package deal different giving you an added benefit.
http://www.helminc.com/helm/product...from=result&Style=helm&Sku=ST36486&itemtype=B

I read somewhere that those Service manuals in Red are a final copy that includes all updates for that given year, do you know anything about this? The reason why I ask is I found a supplement to the service manual & didn't know if that is something else I should buy?
http://www.factoryautomanuals.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FA91247VG

I was really looking for information on bleeding the brakes on a 1986 vette & thought it would be beneficial to have for other things as well.

What do you think about these

http://www.mamotorworks.com/corvette?frame=1.5597

http://www.mamotorworks.com/corvette-1-0-605.html
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yes the RED shop manuals what your looking for, Ive always got them from HELMS, the Shop Manual & the Electrical Diagnosis Manual (ST 364-86) from mamotorworks. seems like its a deal,but never having seen the set I don,t know for sure
 
I put speed bleeders on my car and think they are great. I have a Motive bleeder also and actually did not like it. There are several modifications I have seen to improve the attachment to the MC and regardless of which you use I would highly suggest wrapping the work area with towels to guard againstbrake fluid spewing out all over the engine compartment. Ask me how I know this can happen :twisted:
 
tonka said:
I would highly suggest wrapping the work area with towels to guard against brake fluid spewing out all over the engine compartment. Ask me how I know this can happen :twisted:
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thats exactly how most of us learn about those little malfunctions :lol:
 
what you've found out (as is commonly the case) is that in many cases the actual work required is far less intimidating after you understand whats involved than it is before you started.
now thats not always the case and at times your bound to get in over your head or need tools you don,t own, but youll never learn new skills unless your willing to try new projects , obviously having experienced help won,t hurt, but having a few references , tools a shop manual and asking questions and doing some research goes a long way at times.
I can remember looking at a TPI corvette back in 1985 and thinking W.T.H. is this, and HOW does it work?
the 1984 dual TB was at least semi familiar in concept, but after some RESEARCH it was not NEARLY as intimidating ...as always purchasing a shop manual and just start researching the changes tends to make things less awe inspiring and at first you start muttering to yourself about crazy engineers or insane ways things were assembled, but after awhile you get more familiar and it becomes almost comfortable....until the NEXT major set of changes where your forced to adapt AGAIN

now I got asked,
"what do you do, who do you call when your about to tackle a job you've never done before?"
now most guys sub out jobs to the dealer or a corvette shop when they get into areas they may not be familiar with,but I do ALL the work on my corvettes for TWO good reasons, first I could NEVER afford the shop rates and I can NEVER trust the quality of work many shops do, now ILL be the VERY FIRST GUY IN LINE to ADMIT I'm in WAY over my head at times! but Ive always been able to research the processes, tools, and skills and do the work, or find someone too teach me the skills eventually, youll NEVER learn new stuff if your not willing to tackle new projects and get in way over your current skill level.... besides it USUALLY requires buying LOTS OF new tools and meeting new friends so you can,t hardly lose!


Ill add these tips

(1) do EXTENSIVE research FIRST, before....... buying parts.... or starting a modification, that INCLUDES making a detailed parts list and researching , the sources, cost, manuals etc. IE FIND OUT whats necessary to do the job, and what results youll expect before you start

(2) ITS a HUGE advantage to have the correct tools, things like engine cranes, diagnostic test equipment, welders,lifts, etc. may seem like a big expense thats not directly moving your project forward, but there NECESSARY in some cases and ALWAYS make the project go faster and easier than trying to do without them.

(3) work SAFELY, if you could get hurt doing something, chances are very good that you will eventually find out exactly WHY you should have done it the safe rather than the fast/easy way, if you don,t think it thru and use the correct tools and precautions

(4)I'Ts almost ALWAYS better to have several friends help, on a project, having two or more guys thinking things thru improves your chances of getting it done correctly and safely,and keep in mind ,its always best to do your projects after helping a more experienced guy do something similar on his car so you have some experience doing it, thus be ready and available to help your buddies with their projects and don,t avoid helping so you won,t get dirty, or have some free time thats used on other guys cars vs yours...in the long run it pays big to help others

(5)ask questions and be sure you understand the answers, KNOWING what your doing before you start is a huge advantage

(6)take pictures, label wiring, put small parts in labeled Ziploc bags and take notes, use the manuals, and internet, and if something won,t fit or looks wrong research rather than forcing it with a bigger hammer

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