its where you hit them that counts most

grumpyvette

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I just got off a phone call with a friend, whos dad got his ELK this year like he has done many years in the past
with his 257 Roberts rifle.(vaugely similar to this one, but his is much older he bought his years ago)
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he had accompanied his dad on his elk hunt to help drag out and process the elk as his dads in his 80s now. and while he can still walk and hunt, processing an ELK is basically a younger mans job .
now Id point out that he a Colorado resident and hes usually, but not always hunting on private land that sees little hunting pressure , and he limits his shots to under about 150 yards as hes not all that comfortable shooting at much longer distances, but like most years he patiently, waited until he got a semi-broadside shot angle and slipped a 100 grain speer bullet into the elks heart/lung area from a sitting position.
the shot was made at about 80 yards , his dad had seated himself down wind and under a large conifer from an open fence gate where the ELK tended to travel thru a freinds pasture to reach a water basin/wind mill the elk use as a water source many evenings on his friends ranch.
the ELK ran about 60 yards and folded in mid stride.
many guys (including myself) feel that the 270 Winchester with a good 150 grain bullet is about as small a caliber as any elk hunter should choose but that's also because we know very few people have the mental strength to pass on shots they may get at ranges over a set range where the smaller calibers may be limited, in there ability to do the job well.
but his consistent use of and success with that 257 Roberts rifle (it was a bolt action Winchester 70 feather weight) proves its the guy using the gun, and his precise shot placement more than the caliber used that produces success.



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http://www.gunnersden.com/index.htm.257roberts.html

http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/defau ... er&Source=

http://www.gunsandammo.com/content/257-roberts

http://www.reloadbench.com/cartridges/257r.html
 
I just got off the phone with GARY, Ive only hunted with him a few times for deer and ELK but he called to tell me about his elk hunt last year, in Colorado, seems his favorite 30/06 had a scope that was defective,which he only found out the weekend before the season opened, his only other rifles a customized Swedish military Mauser 6.5mm with original iron sights ,and action and barrel but a custom stock, but not wanting miss opening day. he chose to bring the 6.5mm Mauser, because in his words
"I probably won,t see anything worth shooting anyway"
but as his luck was better than expected, he got to the area he wanted to hunt about an hour later than planed and he was barely 1/3 mile from the parked truck as the sun came up enough to see a group of elk trot, past him in mixed aspen and open meadow, he got a shot at a nice legal 4x5 bull, which foolishly stopped to look at him for a second, which ran at the shot but piled up in only a few dozen yards having the bullet pass thru both lungs.
he said he was amazed at how effective the 6.5mm Mauser had been

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_i ... 8837f5cc34

http://www.northcapepubs.com/swmauser.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Mauser

http://www.chuckhawks.com/swedish_mauser.htm
 
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