more spark from changing spark plug brands?

grumpyvette

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Crusin said:
Hi guys,

I have always used AC Delco Spark Plugs # FR 21S in my ZR-1 and was wondering if any one uses another plug that may give more spark then these. Thank you

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MOST SPARK PLUGS , by themselves don,t do much in re-guard to spark intensity as they are basically just the point where a AIR GAP for the ELECTRICAL ARC is located for the ignitions electrical discharge to jump, thus providing a location of controlled resistance and distance for that ARC to initiate the controlled flame for a controlled BURN...side gapping plugs to exposing a bit more flame and indexing the gap location can provide minor improvements in ignition efficiency.yes there are differences in design,quality of manufacturing and different materials used , Ive had good results with BOSCH,AC DELCO, NGK, AUTOLITE, and CHAMPION , each application may work better with one brand at times,but theres few really bad current designs, in the basic single electrode ground, types, if you select the proper plug for your application,.
most of the major brands like NGK,AC DELCO,CHAMPION,BOSCH, etc have several different designs and most work rather efficiently when matched to the intended applications.
generally a SINGLE ground electrode design gapped to about .043 in most chevy V8 engines works as its intended to do.
yes there ARE minor differences in thermal efficiency and electrical resistance, but changing the ignition system tends to provide much more effective gains than swapping spark plug brands between the better manufacturers plugs
there are many aftermarket , multi spark ignition systems , magnetos and coil- on- plug ignitions and several other ways to increase ignition efficiency.
if you really want to improve ignition, the VOLTAGE AND AMPERAGE should be increased thru the use of an aftermarket ignition control and better COILS (IE INDIVIDUAL COIL PER PLUG IGNITION , or some ignition like a VERTEX MAGNETO ) keep in mind the ignition systems job is to carefully control the combustion chambers burn characteristics and timing to maximize the pressure build=up over the piston on the power stroke, which generally takes about .050 seconds from start to finish and generally starts BEFORE TDC and is effectively over or completed by about 24 degrees AFTER TDC, the best TORQUE is generally seen with a fuel/air ratio of about 12.4-12.6:1 and best mileage at a fuel/air ratio near 15:1 cam timing, intake manifold and header designs, back pressure all effect the fuel/air ratio and cylinder scavenging efficiency, fuel octane and compression, chamber finish, & shape , bore to stroke ratio,and valve sizes all tend to effect the burn efficiency

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Ignition Systems

Basics to High Performance



The job of an ignition system is to generate the spark energy needed to ignite the air/fuel mixture in an engine's cylinder. The main components of this system consist of an ignition coil, coil driver, distributor, spark plug wires, and spark plugs. This page will concentrate on the generation of the high voltage needed to produce a spark, and will begin with a basic ignition style and progress to performance types.

Magnetos

The most basic form of an ignition system is the magneto. Although it was one of the first styles built, it remains in use today. Using the example of a small engine such as a lawn mower or chainsaw, a basic magneto begins with a hub containing magnets which is attached to the crankshaft. As the crankshaft turns these magnets spin past a primary coil of wire to produce a current similar to a generator. The faster the engine runs the more power is generated by the magneto. A set of contacts (points), with a condenser to reduce contact arc wear, switches the current on and off in this primary coil. This process induces a pulse of a few hundred volts into a secondary coil each time the contacts open. The secondary coil has a much higher number of wire turns (typical ratio of 100:1) which acts to multiply the voltage into tens of thousands of volts to produce a spark. The points are activated by a lobe on the crankshaft to produce the spark at the right time (ignition timing). Newer type magnetos use electronic controls instead of points and can offer better timing control. Since magnetos generate their own electricity they are suitable for products that do not have room to carry and recharge batteries, such as lawn mowers, chainsaws, outboard motors and some small displacement motorcycles, etc. Some aircraft still use magnetos (although more complex) as do some racecars. It should be noted that magnetos are not free energy devices. They do place load on a engine like a generator would, with some very large ones actually drawing a moderate number of horsepower.

Kettering Ignition

This battery powered ignition system was first developed by Charles Kettering. A battery replaced the generator portion of a magneto with a battery. A set of contacts (points) and a condenser, switched current from the battery into an ignition coil primary winding. When the points were opened the current would stop and the magnetic field that built up in the primary would collapse, inducing a few hundred volts into the secondary winding of the ignition coil. Again as with a magneto, a turns ratio of 100:1 would yield a secondary voltage that would be in the ten's of thousands of volts. One main advantage of this type of ignition over a magneto is that it can produce strong sparks at low rpm as it doesn't rely on a generator as a primary power source. A condenser is still used to limit the arc current across the points reducing wear. The condenser also helps discharge the coil faster allowing the magnetic field to more fully transfer into the secondary. As engines were built with more cylinders, a device called a distributor was added to the ignition system. A distributor does as the name implies, it distributes the spark to the correct cylinder. A distributor is basically a housing with a shaft that is driven by the engine. Lobes on the shaft activate the points, and a rotor on top of the shaft directs the spark to contacts located in a distributor cap placed on top. From this cap, spark plug wires connect to each individual spark plug.

As expressed earlier, the output of an ignition coil is the result of the primary induced voltage multiplied by the turns ratio. The higher the primary induced voltage (which should not be confused with the battery supply voltage), the higher the coil's output voltage for a given turns ratio will be. The primary induced voltage is a function of the strength of the magnetic field produced by battery current, and charge time (dwell) controlled by the closed time of the points. If a condenser was not present, the primary current would mostly bleed off through the arc produced when the points open, resulting in a very weak spark being produced from the secondary. We will expand on this later as it pertains to performance ignition systems. Aside from the high voltage produced from a coil, the output current is also important as it directly relates to spark duration which does the actual work igniting a fuel mixture.

Electronic Ignition

The initial design of the electronic ignition employed a high voltage transistor to switch current into the ignition coil instead of points. In early designs, a set of points were used to trigger the transistor and since the current required was very low, there would be no contact wear through arcing which allowed longer life of the points. The condenser could be eliminated as the points had no further arcing issues. Utilizing a transistor enables faster switching of the coil primary. This allows higher current transfer to take place resulting in more coil output. Further improvements included the use of a magnetic reluctor pickup to replace mechanical points. This type of pickup uses a small toothed collar to replace the lobes on the distributor shaft. As the teeth pass a bobbin of wire and magnet combination, a small signal is produced to trigger the transistor circuit. Another variation uses Hall Effect technology where the bobbin of wire is replaced by a special transistor. Some distributors were also designed with an optical pickup in which an infrared light beam was interrupted by a notched wheel on the distributor shaft. Some modern ignitions use separate coils for each spark plug which are triggered from sensors directly on the crankshaft and camshaft through an onboard computer.

Inductive Discharge vs Capacitive Discharge Ignition (CD)

All of the above descriptions are examples of Inductive Discharge type ignition systems. The first high performance ignition system design was the Capacitive Discharge Ignition which uses high voltage stored in a capacitor to induce the few hundred volt pulse into the secondary instead of generating it in the primary as with an inductive system. In a CD system a high voltage oscillator circuit charges a capacitor. When it is time for a spark, another circuit discharges the capacitor into the coil primary. The voltage produced from the secondary is in the same proportion as with an inductive system. For example if the capacitor is charged to 400 volts, a 100:1 coil will produce 40,000 volts (or there abouts). CD ignitions have certain limitations depending on design. As an example if the oscillator is not powerful enough, the capacitor will not recharge quick enough and the ignition will have an RPM limitation. As you engineer more powerful oscillators, power consumption also increases. As the size of the capacitor is increased, the output of the ignition also increases, however the oscillator must be made more powerful. Certain tradeoffs must be made in design for a particular application.

Compared to inductive systems of the day, CD systems were more powerful since higher primary voltages could be discharged into the coils. One inherent limitation to a CD system is that the spark duration is short due to small capacitors used. As mentioned earlier, spark duration does the actual work burning an air fuel mixture, the voltage is used to initialize current flow across a spark plug gap. Due to the high primary currents of an inductive system, spark duration is naturally longer. Some Manufacturers of CD ignition systems provide multiple sparks to increase overall spark duration. Of course, as mentioned before, capacitors take time to charge up so there are limitations as to what RPM levels a CD system can maintain multiple sparks.

Today with improvements in technology, inductive ignition systems can be made more powerful with special transistors (Mosfets) switching the coil. These devices have higher breakdown/clamping voltages which allow the primary voltage to increase ( 550+ volts) resulting in higher secondary voltages. This coupled with the inherent long duration makes for a powerful ignition which has the capability of also going multi spark. Inductive ignition systems are emerging as the new high power ignition systems.

More Voltage ?

There is some argument that output voltage of an ignition system does not have to exceed 35,000 to 40,000 volts as normal demand doesn't exceed this. The voltage required to initiate a spark across a spark plug gap depends on a number of conditions including, but not limited to, cylinder pressure, fuel mixture, and spark plug gap. Once the voltage to jump the gap is reached, a spark is formed and current flows creating the mass of the spark. Increases in cylinder pressure and spark plug gap, as well as less than ideal mixture ratios (either too rich or too lean) will increase the voltage required to create a spark. In more simple terms, if you step on it, requirement goes up. If you increase your engine's load while towing i.e. more fuel volume enters the cylinder (upping pressure), requirement goes up. If your plugs wear and the gap burns larger, requirement also goes up. As well, any changes that you voluntarily make such as exhaust modifications, bigger carburetors or fuel injectors, camshaft changes, or upping your plug gap to get a bigger spark, all increase the firing voltage requirement.

Some Math

Having more available voltage results in more stored energy in the coil, and since physics dictates energy must be conserved in an equation, we can do some very simple math. Please bear in mind that this is an example to express the basics of the math with simple numbers and leaves out the pages of complex calculations.

Lets compare two hypothetical coils. The math was purposely kept simple for demonstration purposes.

Coil #1 produces a maximum of 50,000 volts with a current of 0.01A (10 milliamps). Total available power would work out to 500 watts (for the spark duration).

Coil #2 produces a maximum of 40,000 volts with a current of 0.01A (10 milliamps). Total available power would work out to 400 watts (for the spark duration).

If we have a condition that requires 20,000 volts to initiate a spark, with a spark current of 0.0075A (dictated by the circuit resistance - plug wires, distributor, spark plug gap and cylinder pressure) :

Coil #1 would work as follows: 500W divided by 20,000 V would equal 0.025A which is 2.5 times the current of the secondary spark since maximum output voltage is not required.

Coil #2 would work as follows: 400W divided by 20,000 V would equal 0.020A which is 2 times the current of the secondary spark since maximum output voltage is not required.

Now for spark duration (we are almost done), our conditions that required 20,000 volts to initialize a spark also dictate that the spark current would be 0.0075A for the particular situation. So Coil #1 would provide 0.025A divided by 0.0075A = 3.33 times the spark duration. Coil #2 would provide 0.020A divided by 0.0075A = 2.67 times the spark duration.

Both coils satisfy the requirements of the test, however Coil #1 produces more spark duration. Since a mixture burns in a cylinder, a longer duration spark does two things. It ensures ignition of the fuel mixture and, as the mixture swirls in the cylinder, the spark can be igniting a larger portion of the mixture helping ensure more complete combustion. With high energy ignitions, it is not uncommon to be able to increase your spark plug gap a little to get a larger spark for even better combustion. Aside from ensuring combustion, a good ignition system can improve efficiency by releasing the most energy from the fuel charge and leaving very little to go out in the exhaust.

Of course just picking a coil or ignition system that advertises high voltage is half the battle. If the system has less output current than your present system it may not perform any better. A good parameter to look for is maximum available output power/spark.

Misconceptions

A number of misconceptions have been made over the years. Let's take a minute to review a few popular ones. " Too hot a spark will burn holes in your pistons " - not true. Pinging or detonation caused by poor fuel grade, incorrect fuel mixture, or incorrect ignition timing cause this kind of damage. " Too hot a spark will cause your engine to run too lean and run hot " - not true either. Fuel mixture alone dictates rich or lean. Too rich and combustion temperature goes down, too lean and it goes up. Too weak a spark can cause a mixture not to burn well leaving behind too much unburned fuel. However, having close to complete combustion of a proper mixture is not harmful. " Any spark will do to run an engine " - partly true. If the spark can initiate combustion, the engine will run. Beyond that it is a matter of efficiency. The fact is that there is a finite amount of time for a mixture to burn before the exhaust valves open. As well, the higher the RPM the shorter this time becomes. Here is an analogy to demonstrate this. If you were to take a sheet of paper and light it with a match, the paper will burn in " x " amount of time. If you were to use a larger flame to ignite the same sheet of paper, the subsequent larger flame front would consume the paper in a shorter period of time. Both methods will burn the paper no question. But like an engine, if you only have a finite amount of time to complete a burn, you would choose the larger flame. This is not to imply that fuel burns slowly in an engine. Fuel actually burns very quickly, however we are talking about only milliseconds of available time to completely burn in a cylinder between valve openings.

High Energy Ignition For Any Car ?

Applications that benefit most from high energy ignition systems are vehicles where engines are placed under loads such as trailer towing, motor home applications, and fully loaded vehicles such as work trucks. Sports and performance cars that have undergone modifications are also candidates for ignition improvements and should consider such to get the most from other engine modifications. With the emerging use of alternate fuels come increased need for good ignition due to the narrower window of flammability of the fuels. For the rest, the best advice is to keep your current vehicle's ignition system in good repair. Aside from a regular tune up, consider a high quality performance spark plug wire set. This simple purchase can ensure that your stock ignition's potential is able to reach your spark plugs unimpeded.



At Aurora, we are constantly developing new technology for ignition system design. We have always worked with Inductive Discharge platforms due to inherent long spark duration. With custom designed coils, a match between coil and driver electronics has yielded what we feel are optimal results. Our current designs incorporate microprocessors running our progressive dwell software enabling wide performance curves. In addition to our ignition coil and controller system development, high performance spark plug wire design has been in the forefront of our research. Well designed ignition wires are necessary to deliver energy efficiently from whatever ignition system may be in use.

This article was intended to give a basic understanding of ignition systems, primarily the generation of spark. Deliberate attempts were made to keep technical content to a minimum for easier understanding.
 
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