New Guy... Corvette Road Racer from Orange City, Fl.

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Retired Firefighter, retired high school football coach, life long BAMA fan, 25 year SCCA road racer... currently with tube frame C6 Corvette being re-powered with Carb 600 HP LS3, a spec Miata that I picked up recently to run enduro's, and a tube frame 1969 Corvette with a 525 HP 327 currently under construction. (very slow build almost 3 years into this thing now).

Glad to be here !
 
yes welcome to the web site!
and yes pictures would be great!
THEY HELP GETTING A GOOD GRASP ON PROJECTS!/PROBLEMS?
AND CAN HELP WITH FINDING SOLUTIONS!
 
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Yeah, we're like Playboy that way, we read just for the pictures.
No, seriously, they really aid in understanding the text.
Welcome.
 
Early pic of our tube frame 1969 Vette chassis.


This chassis utilizes the Howe Trans Am 2 front clip, with the rest by Woody at Bemco Fab.

Car will have a 4.125 bore by 3.0 stroke motor...actually about 326 ci, but I call it a 327.
Has early Brodix heads, roller cam, matching Brodix intake, and 650 Holley 80541.

Will use a G Force T101 road race tranny into the 9 inch Ford rear with a Nascar type chunk, with internal pump. Will use about 3.40 gears for Daytona and 3.73 for Sebring. Motor can turn 8000 if needed.

Early look at the C6 Tube frame car, built to Rolex GT rules of 2009. LS6 powered.
 
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Car will have a 4.125 bore by 3.0 stroke motor...actually about 326 ci, but I call it a 327.
Has early Brodix heads, roller cam, matching Brodix intake, and 650 Holley 80541.
More details on this engine, please. I always wanted to try this combo. But for now, I have my 302.
 
Dart Little M block standard bore was 4.125 but I think it may be 4.155 now. Anyway it came out to be about 326 ci
EXPENSIVE Callies Crank small journal
Carillo 6" Rods
Custom JE Pistons 11 to 1
Three stage dry sump with road race dry sump pan
 
EXPENSIVE Callies Crank small journal
Carillo 6" Rods
You mean the 283 small journal size? Carrillo rods only 6" long - why not longer? It would
give you a lighter piston and the pin bore still would not intersect the oil rings.
Any dyno sheets you would not mind posting?
My 302 has a perfect (nitrided, never ground) original large journal steel crank, TRW .020" over
pistons, and Eagle 5.7” SIR rods with ARP Waveloc bolts (good for 500-550 HP@7000 rpm).

Speaking of Carrillo rods, I have a 5.7" set with the WCM7 bolts bought new in 1988.
Used for 2 months in a 350 in a 68 Camaro on the street only. Still in my basement, each
coated, bagged and boxed. I will never get the chance to use them. Interested???
 
That's some pretty serious equipment you speaking of there. Sure sounds like it
would be fun to race, was it built for SCCA?
 
the car looks like it would be a lot of fun to drive, if its light weight enough to accelerate rapidly out of the twisty sections of the roads curves,
especially if its got huge and effective disc brakes and proper tires,
that allow you to brake hard enough to allow you to hang onto the speed longer that most of the competition!
I don,t know the rules your particular club uses, the classes I used to run in they basically let you run a wide range of cars, but that was 30 years ago.
while I can,t help but be impressed with the projects potential as a club racer I personally would question the reason you chose a 3" stroke crank combo, if the rules don,t lock car weight into a ratio of the engines displacement , like a few clubs do. Lets say just for discussion purposes, its 8 lbs per cubic inch of engine displacement in this case
I.E. if the car has 327 cubic inches x 8=roughly 2615 lbs
Engine Torque levels generated is generally the result of cylinder fill efficiency, compression ratio and engine displacement .
engine rpm limits most reasonable priced chevy v8 engines built with common race parts to around 4300 fpm if you intend to have much longer term engine durability and youll be lucky to reach 1.4 ft lbs per cubic inch and 1.6 hp per cubic inch
lets do some math (just to compare potential)
horse power = engine torque x rpm /5252

E.T. from power & weight
http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php

a 3" stroke solid lifter roller engine
thats 8600rpm max
if camed and set up correctly peak efficiency,peak torque , generally falls near .70 of max piston speed
example 8600 x.7=6020 rpm
1.4 x 327= 457 ft lbs/ 1.6 x 327= 523 hp

a 3.75" stroke solid lifter roller engine
thats 6880rpm max
if camed and set up correctly peak efficiency , peak torque generally falls near .70 of max piston speed
example 6880 x .7=4816 rpm
1.4 x 406= 569 ft lbs/ 1.5 x 406= 609 hp

thats roughly a huge 15% advantage for the larger displacement engine if the car weights the same weight, and theres no way the smaller engine competes in this case.
make the car weight the same 8 lbs per cubic inch 3248 lbs
redue the calcs and youll find the smaller 327 has a very slight 2% advantage in theory , but in practice the extra torque of the larger engine and extra weight make the advantage, almost negligible with a good driver making the difference

 
That car will weigh about 2500# minus driver. The reason for the 3.0 crank was, I bought the motor at a great deal, fresh off the dyno. It is what it is ! An honest 525 HP out of 327 cubic inches at too shabby.
 
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