Por15 Engine Enamel / Inside of Block

[Indycars]

Does anyone have personal experience with using the Por15 Engine Enamel inside the engine ???

I had email conversation with Por15, like you might expect, they did NOT recommend their paint on the
inside. I'm also wanting to use the Tie-Coat Primer on the outside since it's a high build primer and I'm
wanting to make the outside look especially nice ??? I was thinking of using the Tie-Coat Primer inside so I could get some
experience with the paint, prior to painting the outside and wanting the process to go without surprises. I like
the idea of painting the engine with a brush since I have to worry about over spray on the body and frame
in close proximity.

I have already acquired Engine Enamel, Tie-Coat Primer, Marine Clean and Prep & Ready to see how it looks
inside the block where adhesion is my only concern. I'm prepared to do the job right, my concerns about the
appropriateness of the POR15 Engine Enamel for the application inside the engine.

Below you will find the email conversation with Mark Kanya of Por15 for your reference.

NOTE: You will need to start reading at the bottom of the quote, to read in chronological order.

I'm sorry but we don't really have any coatings that we recommend using on the interior of an engine. If you wanted to coat the exterior of the engine, that would be fine. Unfortunately I was incorrect before when I told you that you can build up the engine enamel with the Tie-Coat. Technically you can, but unfortunately the TieCoat is not recommended for application on engines. It doesn't really stand up to heat to well.


Mark Kanya
POR-15 Inc
PO Box 1235
Morristown NJ 07962
1-800-457-6715
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-----Original Message-----
From: rickmiller@cox.net [mailto:rickmiller@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 5:03 PM
To: Mark Kanya
Subject: RE: Tie-Coat Primer & Engine Enamel

Mark,

The picture shows how my engine surface looks, it's been semi polished. I want to paint both inside and the outside of this engine because it's for my street rod.
I have these products now...Tie Coat Primer, Engine Enamel, Marine Clean and Prep & Ready. When painting the inside, should I start with the Engine Enamel without the Tie Coat Primer since my only concern is adhesion.

For outside I want the best possible top coat and my reason for wanting to build up a surface I can sand. With the Tie Coat primer, will this give me a marginal adhesion for my top coat ???

Or what order would you apply the products I have for both inside and outside of the engine ???

Thanks!


Rick Miller


On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Mark Kanya wrote:

Hello Rick,

Yes, you can use the TieCoat then the Engine Enamel. It would be in your best interest to apply the POR-15 first, then you can apply the TieCoat and Enamel after that.


Mark Kanya
POR-15 Inc
PO Box 1235
Morristown NJ 07962
1-800-457-6715


-----Original Message-----
From: rickmiller@cox.net [mailto:rickmiller@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:50 PM
To: Support
Subject: Tie-Coat Primer & Engine Enamel


Can I use the Tie-Coat Primer under your Engine Enamel to build up the surface for sanding ???

I read your literature, but couldn't find anything specific about using it under your enamels.

Thanks!


Rick Miller

 

[grumpyvette]

I can,t see why Por15 Engine Enamel should not work, just remember, correct surface prep and degreasing on the metal is critical to long term paint retention, a good pressure cleaner, solvent spray and a stiff brush and a heat gun will prove beneficial during the process.
internal surfaces like the lifter gallery, and lower crank case surrounding the rotating assembly, where paint is used to both trap and hold micro debris and speed oil flow back to the sump, is best done with paint designed to handle a constant bath of hot oil and rapid temp changes.
the rustoleum engine paint can be applied to a totally dry, degreased block and allowed to dry over night to provide a decent smooth surface that locks in surface debris and speeds oil flow,GLYPTAL paint can and has also be used, as its designed to shed the effects of heat and oil, don,t forget to use the rubber corks in the lifter bores , lots of tape cover on areas you don,t want to paint,and using a cheap throw away one time use, brush that has nylon or poly bristles, rather than organic , that won,t come off is advised

http://www.harborfreight.com/1-inch-pro ... 39685.html

https://www.ryderfleetproducts.com/...MI_NPtzoHs1AIVWrjACh2A6wFBEAQYASABEgK02fD_BwE

http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=372

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=125&p=155#p155

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=3774&p=10002&hilit=bottoming+taps#p10002

 

[DorianL]

I'll be damned! POR-15 is about the only product you can get over here - actually in Germany. What a coincidence to see the post here!

I don't trust any of the other local rattle cans.

But POR-15 and enamel OVER that???

 

[Indycars]

But POR-15 and enamel OVER that???

OVER that..... don't understand what you mean ?

 

[DorianL]

According to Engine enamel kit, you POR-15 the block then use the enamel.

Dunno, I guess I feel more comfortable with a straight primer then enamel...

POR-15 on block strkes me as strange... that being said, I just ordered some... Hot Yellow