SBC 427 not cranking out the power

drpipes

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Hey. I haven't been to the forum lately but I have a question. My SBC 427 runs smooth but just doesn't seem to want to rev up like I thought it would. Is this just the function of the long stroke or could it be something else? I have tried everything to make this thing perfect including 1.75 inch headers and 3 inch exhaust. It just doesn't pull like a 563HP/590ftlb engine. Running a wide ratio m22 with 3.36 rear. MSD 6Al Box, AFR 210 heads, performer air gap and comp cams hydraulic roller. Kinda disappointed :( thanks
 
always drop back to basics
whats the compression test read on all cylinders?
WHAT cam are you running?(did you degree it in)
whats your ignition timing curve?
whats your fuel air ratio every 1000rpm?
whats the exhaust back pressure at every 1000rpms?
Have you tested for vacuum leaks?
what the intake vacuum reading in the plenum at every 1000rpms?
where in the rpm range does the power seem to start and drop off?
how did you adjust the valve pre-load?
whats your battery voltage?
what colors the ignition spark?
have you CAREFULLY VERIFIED the firing order?
WHATS the ignition wire resistance?
Whats the spark plug gap?
can you post CLEAR CYLINDER LABELED PICTURES of your spark plugs?

without facts, you're verified from current testing, to work from, your spinning your metal wheels and wasting time guessing
once you know the basics theres more than likely more tests, that will need to be done, changes to ets,power valves accelerator pump cams ignition timing etc. but with a firm basis of facts, and eliminating areas that prove to be operating correctly, its simply a matter of testing, verification,isolation, and tracking down the cause and correcting the flaw, in the combo or tuning.
btw you do realize that the cam might require a different rear gear ratio to perform at peak potential?


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just as a bit of info I had a buddy that built a killer 468 cubic inch 13.5:1 compression ratio, BIG BLOCK CHEVY with a very radical solid roller cam,
(crower 01521 cam/brodix heads)
(first solid roller cam he ever installed) and he spent hours trying to get it to idle below 1500rpm, it sounded like crap,and didn,t sound right, and he was sure the cam had lost a couple lobes, he called me over and we ran down a check list, I had printed out, when we got to the firing order question, he starting cursing and said, I can,t believe I spent 6 hours chasing this problem, when its my own damn stupidity!
(he installed a custom ground 4/7 swap cam and was still using the 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 firing order he had used for 30 years, without thinking and had verified it several times, not the 1-8-7-3-6-5-4-2 required by the new cam)

I had a different friend install a 467 cubic inch Pontiac V8 in a 1967 fire -bird and he hooked the headers to the stock 40 plus year old exhaust, the car ran decent up to about 4000rpm where it seemed to hit a wall on power, a simple check showed he had over 7 psi of back pressure at 4000rpm so the engine just could not fight that, swapping to a custom 3" dual exhaust with an (X) pipe really woke-up the power potential, and before testing he was convinced the cam was too mild, which it was not. (crower 60213 cam/ edelbrock 2957 intake/850 holley/edelbrock 60955 heads)
 
Thanks. This engine was dyno tested and tuned from Shafiroff. The only thing that I did different was put in my own MSD distributer and I am not sure what springs and stops are in it. The engine put out 563 HP/590 ftlbs on the engine dyno from the shop. The car needs some clutch work right now but I will let you know what happens with this thing once i can get it on the road again. That would be absolutely incredible if the only thing wrong is my timing curve!!!!! Thanks again for your help.
 
pictures and a good deal more details about the car and drive train would be great!
and yes, if the TDC marks, timing marks on the damper,or ignition timings off , because its just set wrong or the advance curves not correct,its going to cause you to loose significant power, ID suggest gaping the plugs at .043-.045 and using this ignition curve as a base


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Well, got the car on a dyno today. This has been a real pain but I got 429 RWHP and 466 RW torque. I think I got it right now. Timing was jacked up. Small headers. Gaps wrong on plugs. MSD 6AL digital rev limiter calibration jacked up. Clogged secondaries. No PCV. Fixed all of this over time. Thanks so much for your help! Ready to drive the darn thing now!!!! Engine dyno 563 hp and 592 ft/lbs 2 years ago.
 
This is with mechanical water pump, mechanical fan, M22 wide ratio 4 speed and 3.36 stock rear end. 24% loss from crank but I am very happy!!!!!
 
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