now Ive hunted ELK for well over 35 years and I can,t remember a single time when I needed a second shot, that a falling block single shot rifle would not have been fast and easy enough to load that it might have posed a problem. in fact I can,t remember needing a second shot for at least 30 years now, but thats not to infer Im a great shot, its more of an indicator that I try very hard to get in close and pick my shooting locations with care, it takes no great skill to hit an ELK sized target in the heart/lung area from a solid sitting position with a rifle thats got a good sling, and decent sights
personally I love the look and feel of the BROWNING 78 which is no longer made, Ive got one re-barreled in 300wby mag thats a great choice for ELK with it loaded with 200 grain speer bullets
almost any caliber from 270 win thru 458 win would do a decent job in skilled hands but theres no need to go larger than about 35-38 caliber.
trust, me, when you know you best make the first shot count you tend to take a bit extra time setting up that first shot and youll seldom need a second one, and even a 270 win loaded with a decent 150 grain bullet will kill any elk if you place the shot correctly, but having the extra penetration for odd angle that something like a 375 ruger, 375 H&H, 416 RUGER, or 9.3mm has proves you some extra options at times
Ive been looking for, and really wanted, a stainless/laminated ruger #1 in 458 lott at a decent price for about 10 years, ever since one of my buddies bought one at a local gun show for $900, he loves his, I reload for him, and no he refuses to sell his.
every time I have the cash I either can't locate one, or theres a family crisis that used all the saved cash
given a choice that would be my next rifle
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I was asked, a few years back, what rifle I've had the most one shot kills with, where the game just dropped when hit?
the answer would be
Ive never had any issues using a browning 78 falling block, (well other than its so pretty I'm constantly worried I may scratch it, or screw up the finish.)
the picture posted below is not my 300 wby , but it could be a clone, Ive ,loaded with 165 grain speer bullets,pushed to about 3100fps with a stiff load of H4831 and a 215 fed primer, has up to now had an un blemished record of DRT (DEAD RIGHT THERE) kills,
Ive used it for mule deer not elk, but to be fair I've used it mostly on mule deer, only because the ranges can in theory be longer and not because I would need the power the rifle has.
and ironically I rarely have taken shots at over 300 yards, and I doubt the total kill exceeded 12 mule deer that I've used it on, over the last 45 years..btw its a browning 78 with a 26" length barrel similar to this picture, that I had re-barreled by shillen in the 1970s
btw the extractor from a 7mm rem mag browning 78 and a re-chamber bit is all thats required to convert a 30/06 B78 to 300 WBY
but I found the fore arm needed bedding to return the rifles full accuracy potential after the re-chamber up-grade
http://www.loaddata.com/members/search_ ... ing%20Data
http://www.reloadammo.com/300weloa.htm
personally I love the look and feel of the BROWNING 78 which is no longer made, Ive got one re-barreled in 300wby mag thats a great choice for ELK with it loaded with 200 grain speer bullets
almost any caliber from 270 win thru 458 win would do a decent job in skilled hands but theres no need to go larger than about 35-38 caliber.
trust, me, when you know you best make the first shot count you tend to take a bit extra time setting up that first shot and youll seldom need a second one, and even a 270 win loaded with a decent 150 grain bullet will kill any elk if you place the shot correctly, but having the extra penetration for odd angle that something like a 375 ruger, 375 H&H, 416 RUGER, or 9.3mm has proves you some extra options at times
Ive been looking for, and really wanted, a stainless/laminated ruger #1 in 458 lott at a decent price for about 10 years, ever since one of my buddies bought one at a local gun show for $900, he loves his, I reload for him, and no he refuses to sell his.
every time I have the cash I either can't locate one, or theres a family crisis that used all the saved cash
given a choice that would be my next rifle
viewtopic.php?f=92&t=3738
viewtopic.php?f=92&t=1275
I was asked, a few years back, what rifle I've had the most one shot kills with, where the game just dropped when hit?
the answer would be
Ive never had any issues using a browning 78 falling block, (well other than its so pretty I'm constantly worried I may scratch it, or screw up the finish.)
the picture posted below is not my 300 wby , but it could be a clone, Ive ,loaded with 165 grain speer bullets,pushed to about 3100fps with a stiff load of H4831 and a 215 fed primer, has up to now had an un blemished record of DRT (DEAD RIGHT THERE) kills,
Ive used it for mule deer not elk, but to be fair I've used it mostly on mule deer, only because the ranges can in theory be longer and not because I would need the power the rifle has.
and ironically I rarely have taken shots at over 300 yards, and I doubt the total kill exceeded 12 mule deer that I've used it on, over the last 45 years..btw its a browning 78 with a 26" length barrel similar to this picture, that I had re-barreled by shillen in the 1970s
btw the extractor from a 7mm rem mag browning 78 and a re-chamber bit is all thats required to convert a 30/06 B78 to 300 WBY
but I found the fore arm needed bedding to return the rifles full accuracy potential after the re-chamber up-grade
http://www.loaddata.com/members/search_ ... ing%20Data
http://www.reloadammo.com/300weloa.htm
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