building a potentially impressive BBC

[Grumpy]

think
twin turbo/ intercooled
/e85/
1300 plus hp
with added oil cooler etc.
think of this as a quick way to blow $33K minimum
YOUR CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THIS
AND EXPECT IT TO RUN ON THE LOCAL GAS STATIONS PUMP LOW OCTANE FUEL


heads

357cc BBC Rectangle Port Cylinder Head

Cylinder Head Specialists

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roughly 115cc combustion chamber volume

AFR 357cc BBC Rectangle Port Cylinder Heads 100% Titanium Retainers CNC Ported - Air Flow Research 2010 - TREperformance.com

TREperformance sells new AFR 357cc BBC Rectangle Port Magnum aluminum cylinder heads from Air Flow Research for almost any Chevy big block vehicle, this is part # 2010-TI.

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HEAD GASKETS (.021 thick pure copper)

Head Gaskets at Summit Racing

Get leak-free performance with top-brand head gaskets for daily drivers, street machines, muscle cars, race cars, and more. Shop Summit Racing!

www.summitracing.com

block (tall deck, aluminum , 4.560 bore)

Dart 31264455 Dart Race Series Big Block Chevy Aluminum Bare Blocks | Summit Racing

Free Shipping - Dart Race Series Big Block Chevy Aluminum Bare Blocks with qualifying orders of $109. Shop Engines, Bare Blocks at Summit Racing.

www.summitracing.com

(100 lbs less weight than cast iron and very easy to weld/repair if damaged)
TWIN TURBO(s)

https://shop.precisionturbo.net/mirror-image-turbochargers-gen2-pt7675

rotating assembly (yes custom, forged dish pistons required)
4.560 bore x 4.5" stroke a 580 cubic inch engine has a 72.5 cubic inch sweep volume per cylinder or 1189ccs
thus with a 115cc combustion chamber head about a 30 cc dish piston will be required
intercooler

Treadstone Twin Turbo TRTTC9-3.5 Intercooler 1300HP 25" corvette camaro viper ls | eBay

Perfect for boost application upwards of 1300HP. Features a 9" longer tube length than its predecessor and is perfect for high boost upwards of 1300HP. 1300HP efficient. New,GenuineTreadstone TRTTC9-3.5 Intercooler.

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SCAT Chevy 454 - 572 Forged Rotating Assembly - 1-42395BI

SCAT Chevy 454 - 572 Forged Rotating Assembly - 1-42395BI sold by SCAT Crankshafts.

www.scatcrankshafts.com

intake

Holley EFI 300-564 Holley EFI Intake - Chevy Big Block V8 EFI

Holley EFI is excited to launch four new multi-point fuel injection intake manifolds for the big block Chevy. These new intakes are available to fit oval or rectangular port heads, and 4150 or 4500 style throttle bodies. These Intakes are ideal for converting your big block high performance or...

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injectors

1650cc (180 lbs/hr at OE 58 PSI fuel pressure) FIC Fuel Injector Clinic Injector Set for LS1 engines (High-Z)

1650cc LS1 FIC's Data Matched high performance fuel injectors featuring high impedance Bosch core, E85 compatible, with a lifetime warranty.

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throttle body

Holley 112-578: Throttle Body 2000 CFM - JEGS

Get the Best Performance with Holley Throttle Body 2000 CFM 112-578 parts at JEGS. Shop Now at the Guaranteed Lowest Price!

www.jegs.com

oil pan

Moroso 20401: Street/Strip Oil Pan Big Block Chevy Mark IV - JEGS

Recommended Oil Pump Pickup: Stock Oil Pumps, Moroso BBC Race Pump Nos 710-22150/22160/22162. Use Pickup No 710-24440. Features: Fits Big Block Chevy engines (except Gen V and Gen VI) in most chassis except 1962-67 Chevy II, V8 Vega/Monza, and 1955-57 Chevy Kicked-out sump moves oil level away...

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water pump

CHEVROLET Edelbrock 8850 Edelbrock Victor Series High Performance Street Mechanical Water Pumps | Summit Racing

Free Shipping - Edelbrock Victor Series High Performance Street Mechanical Water Pumps with qualifying orders of $109. Shop Water Pumps, Mechanical at Summit Racing.

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ROCKERS

CHEVROLET Crower 73687-8 Crower Enduro Stainless Steel Stud Mount Roller Rocker Arms | Summit Racing

Free Shipping - Crower Enduro Stainless Steel Stud Mount Roller Rocker Arms with qualifying orders of $109. Shop Rocker Arms at Summit Racing.

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OIL COOLER WITH FAN

Flex-a-lite 700040 Flex-A-Lite Stacked Plate Engine Oil Coolers with Fans | Summit Racing

Free Shipping - Flex-A-Lite Stacked Plate Engine Oil Coolers with Fans with qualifying orders of $109. Shop Fluid Coolers at Summit Racing.

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yes we need more parts this is just a rough guide
to start building 572 BBC
(yeah 30cc dish pistons will be required to get to about a 7.9:1 target static compression)






reference
(yes you absolutely need several ANODES,
and 50%/50% antifreeze,
to run aluminum heads and copper head gaskets)

Catalog

Download the SCAT catalog to peruse the latest offerings from SCAT Crankshaft, the leader in high performance engine components.

www.scatcrankshafts.com

How To Calculate Engine Compression Ratio And Displacement | JE Pistons

When building an engine from the ground up, calculating the compression ratio (CR) is a necessary step to ensure maximum performance and prevent future problems.

auto.jepistons.com

head gasket related

head gaskets fail for a number of reasons, improper installation procedures, corrosion, due to old coolant over heating, due to low coolant, a bad water pump or restricted t-stat or radiator detonation, due to bad gas or improper ignition timing, improper tuning of the fuel/air ratio etc. in...

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NRE Twin-Turbo Alien 572 Daily Driver

NRE Twin-Turbo Alien 572 DAILY DRIVER SERIES: *$39,995+ *The estimated price is based on the motor featured in the photos. 1,750hp @ 6,200 RPM and 1,600 ft lbs of Torque @ 5,100 RPM Bar none this is the best dollar for dollar value in the Twin Turbo big block world. This engine is packed with...

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measuring rod and pin heights

one BIG ADVANTAGE to use of floating pin pistons and connecting rods it the ease of mixing and matching components and locations to minimize quench, or deck height differences during the install process...

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Fuel Injector Calculator

FuelTech offers a Fuel Injector Calculator to assist racers and builders select the proper fuel injector sizing. Picking the proper fuel injector size is critical for performance and tuning control. All FuelTech engine management systems are capable of driving stock injectors to massive 850...

www.fueltech.net

keep in mind the L88 corvette technology is vastly outdated

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/ratified https://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/history-of-grand-sport-corvette-hash-marks-etc.6849/#post-22234 https://www.motortrend.com/features/1507-untold-stories-of-the-1963-chevrolet-corvette-grand-sport-003/...

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Catalog | Dart Machinery

Take a look through our catalog here, download or fill out the form below to get one sent out to you:

dartheads.com

Will a Bigger Intercooler Add Horsepower? Everything You Need to Know

A turbocharger is a great way to add power to your driving experience, whether you are racing on the track

www.vividracing.com

Intercooler: What It Is & How It Works (Complete Guide)

In this article, we will discuss the role of the intercooler, how it works, the different types and designs of intercooler and more.

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24° Magnum

Shop 24° Magnum Parts

www.airflowresearch.com

 

[Grumpy]

Turbo Size Calculator - Find CFM & Pressure Ratio - StrikeEngine

Enter engine size & boost pressure and this turbo size calculator will output the CFM and pressure ratio.Use these numbers to analyse turbo compressor maps

strikeengine.com

Site Maintenance

Complete Engines - Ohio Crankshaft

ohiocrank.com

https://www.shafiroff.com/sportsman/582_975.php

engine crane and engine stand,mods & accesories

Although I showed this in a past separate thread, Grumpyvette's post reminded me of it. It stared as a Matco 1200 lb capacity stand and I modified the legs so that the stand takes up less floor space and can store more compactly. I also added brackets to store the legs. Oh and I also had the...

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Engine Balancing

Does anyone have tips on engine balancing? I bought an externally balanced 383 that ran fine in a 67 Chevelle with an automatic transmission. I had the new flywheel and clutch supposedly balanced to the flex plate that was in the Chevelle. I installed the 383 in my 1975 Corvette with a 4...

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BUY A FEW BOOKS ON ENGINE REBUILDING AND PROPER ENGINE ASSEMBLY
AND READ THROGH THEM CAREFULLY,
ITS MONEY VERY WELL SPENT!

 

[Grumpy]

keep in mind you can add extra ethanol or methanol to the fuel to aid in the cooling of the fuel/air mix entering the engine and maintaining a marginally richer fuel air ratio above about 3500 rpm, tends to reduce any tendency toward detonation.
if you are looking to make lets say 1300 rwhp, you'll need to make about 1560 potential crankshaft horsepower
this means parts selection and matching compatible components is critical , especially if reasonable longer term durability is desired,
thus factors like fuel pump flow rates, intercooler surface area, air flow rates, for the radiator and oil cooler, your ignition advance curve and sensor controls to prevent detonation, boost pressure curve,
HEAD GASKETS, FASTENERS, oil pumps, bearing clearances, type of bearings selected, radiator size and efficiency,
Use of transmission fluid coolers, fuel line size, injector size, and turbo boost rates, engine oil cooling etc. are all critical.
and you damn sure better consider car weight and required brakes and tires in your build calculations.
or put a bit differently if your goal was to have 1300 dependable RW hp,
you'll need to seriously research & consider all the components required to build about a 1600-1650hp engine build.
YEAH THIS HOBBY AINT CHEAP! AND IF YOU FAIL TO DO THE REQUIRED RESEARCH & HOME WORK IT CAN POTENTIALLY GET A WHOLE LOT MORE EXPENSIVE IN REPAIRS YOU NEED FROM FAILING TO DO THINGS CORRECTLY THE FIRST TIME!
link too bore vs stroke info on hundreds of engines
every part you choose is a compromise , and may require changes,
that cost you in time, money or performance to some degree,
and almost every part will require a bit of fitting or clearance work,
or adjustment to fit and function to get the best results
if it drops out of the package and bolts together as it drops out of the package,
its almost certain its not functional to nearly its full potential
you should keep in mind every choice made is a compromise in some areas, planning is critical, but reality can bite you financial in the ass.
incremental gains through minor mods while surely possible and yes proven, to work,but adding those mods,
are at some point ,mods to the engine,or transmission, that are becoming rapidly more, expensive and thus restrictive to completion of a durable & functional engine than the benefits are to the overall build, those mods may produce minor and documented gains, but the minor gains produced are far out weighted by the cost of the mods, especially in a daily drivers engine, things that make sense in a formula 1 or NASCAR engine build, are cost prohibitive to do on a street car, simply shedding weight on the car or improving the aerodynamics, may be far cheaper and result in greater performance.
I've built a few dozen 489-496 BBC engines in the past for guys with novas, camaros chevelles etc, that had visions of having a 10 second or faster car on the street, and the results of having a significantly more powerful engines always resulted in the need for mods like suspension mods,
like traction bars, air shocks, bigger tires, bigger brakes, better engine cooling systems, new stronger differentials, etc. that they may have never considered, that were required to make the car handle correctly, this is never a cheap hobby, but at some point there's a limit to what your wallet will tolerate and how long you want to deal with a car who's engine is (STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION SO I CAN'T DRIVE IT YET)
your job is to think things through carefully and make sure parts fit and function to their full potential,
little things like checking piston ring end gap, verifying bearing clearances, and ccing the heads and checking piston to valve clearance, degreeing in the cam and verifying the valve train geometry, polishing combustion chambers, getting a decent 3 angle valve job, MATTER!

as always it really pays to think things through carefully,
use a build sheet documenting all parts used, machine work done or scheduled and the costs and time required.
this will inevetably result in your having to do some research and ideally not skip over important steps like checking clearances, valve train geometry , parts selection and compatibility issues or lubrication and ignition system issues
break the build down into sections like the block and required machine work, the rotating assembly, heads and valve train, lube and cooling systems, matching the injection, carbs or intake manifolds selected, matching the headers and exhaust system, and of course matching the drive train gearing, differential gearing, tires and brakes to the intendeed useage.
all of these steps requre some research to get the ideal results

Pro Port BV3 Big-Block Chevy Cylinder Head HIP 11 Degrees

Edelbrock #614669 Pro Port Cylinder Head Features 11 Deg Intake Valve Angle & is Intended for High Output/Large Cubic Inch Big-Block Chevrolet Racing Engines. HIP treated. Requires Special Valve Train and Sheet Metal Valve Covers.

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http://users.erols.com/srweiss/tablersn.htm

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/big-block-chevy-info.710/#post-60300

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-displacement-street-engine.10961/#post-48359

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/tall-deck-big-block-related-threads.10391/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/which-496-bbc-engine.12291/#post-60423

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...g-block-head-comparison.319/page-2#post-56649

some basic bbc math, to get you thinking about your potential dream bbc combos.

I recently had a discussion with one of the local guys concerning what heads and rotating assembly he should buy now that he recently purchased a tall deck (10.2") big block chevy block. he has a perfectly good 427 forged crank (3.76" stroke) but hes seriously thinking of buying a (4.25" stroke)...

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http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/build-a-496-stroker-bbc.101/#post-49427

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/block-choice.10472/#post-43984

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/scat-cranks-related-info.10930/#post-47993

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...apless-top-piston-ring-sets.10555/#post-44980

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/block-prep.125/page-2#post-58033

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-on-the-cheap-well-to-start.11739/#post-55365

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/what-big-block-is-it.11655/#post-54494

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/scat-cranks-related-info.10930/#post-47993

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-15-years-later-after-long-term-storag.10443/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...g-block-pushrod-guide-plates.4596/#post-52034

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/build-a-496-stroker-bbc.101/#post-49427

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/another-496bbc.5123/page-2#post-49183

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-calculators-and-basic-math.10705/#post-72061

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/another-496bbc.5123/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/picking-a-cam-for-street-strip-496-bbc.13384/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-car-craft-magazine-big-bang-big-block.10830/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/striders-540bbc.1356/

can you build your custom engine as cheaply as you can have a crate engine built for you?

this is a question I have been asked so many times I can't even remember how often I've heard it asked and of course as with most things, the answer is IT DEPENDS ON... :facepalm: a great many factors , (1) like do you have a decent clean, well lighted and adequate place to work? (2)do you...

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Bbc Related & Links And Useful Info

a few useful links, and sub links videos, and tips to look over yeah, increased displacement helps and building a killer BBC old school, for your car can be both cost effective and produce impressive results some of the most effective, cost per hp and efficient combo's , will be the 496...

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