I ran into this internet video
(LINK BELOW)
related to hog hunting
I found it very interesting, in that ,
I can partially relate ,
but I find it rather amazing,
as it seems to show mostly rather un-skilled shots,
its just not that hard to hit a close moving target after some experience,\
but I'm guessing they mostly don,t have experience,\
and yes hogs can and do attack and bite!
I've very successfully used both a 44 mag revolver and a 44 mag
loaded with a hard cast 310 grain lee bullets , over a powder charge of 21 grains of H110 powder.
that combo is very effective when the shots well placed.
its skill at placing shots and knowing hog anatomy that counts!
hogs are very common, because of the brush and palmetto thickets they seem to prefer,
in the mid florida area ranges tend to be under 50-60 yards,
making most common iron sight rifles and handguns work rather well
many guys successfully use 357 mags,with hard cast 158-180 grain bullets
10mm, 41 mag,are popular
, SKS and M1 carbines AR15 with 62-70 grain bullets
and shotguns and 30/30, and 44 mag, carbines
(and certainly not nearly as powerful as a 12 ga shotgun loaded with slugs)
most of the guys in the video seem to use shot guns,
but I'm amazed that it looks like the majority of shooters in the video can't shoot accurately,
and seem reluctant to shoot and continue shooting when the chance to place a shot or more arrives
I.ve also used a 357 mag revolver and a 10mm glock
but I can assure you while both work,
and are 100 percent lethal if you can place shots accurately,
they don,t hit as hard as the 44 mag,
(WHICH GETS THE JOB DONE VERY NICELY,)
and
while you certainly don,t need a,
480 ruger
,445 DWSM
, 454 cassul
460 S&W
,or
500 S&W revolver,
all those CALIBER choices pack even more stopping power,
so if you can handle a bigger revolver they are an option,
YOU MIGHT CARE TO LOOK AT
keep in mind that cartridges like the 445 dan wesson
(an extended length case 44 mag,) or the 454 casull and 460 S&W ( an extended length case, similar to a 45 colt)
while significantly more powerful than a standard 44 mag, are not necessarily more lethal in skilled hands, but the extra velocity allows longer effective range use.
and the DAN WESSON REVOLVERS ARE KNOWN TO BE EXCEPTIONALLY ACCURATE and BARRELS ARE EASY TO REPLACE
http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammo/ammunition_hunt_121305/
if you watch this linked video keep in mind hes using jacketed hollow point ammo, you can generally get significantly deeper penetration with hard cast flat nose bullets in either caliber
I would strongly suggest selecting a 6"-10" barrel pistol or revolver for any serious hunting application to maximize velocity and to provide a good sight radias.
http://www.biggamehunt.net/articles/beginners-guide-big-game-handgun-hunting
http://www.ballistics101.com/357_magnum.php
(while certainly not a power house choice, Or something Id recommend),
in the hands of a skilled hunter I has taken about everything in north America at one time or another)
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=357 Magnum&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
http://www.ballistics101.com/10mm.php
(not bad for a compact auto pistol used for hunting and with proper hand loads certainly useful)
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=10 mm&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
http://www.ballistics101.com/41_magnum.php
(great choice if recoil bothers you, provided you hand load )
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=41 Magnum&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
http://www.ballistics101.com/44_magnum.php
(without doubt the least expensive and most effective choice for most people)
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=44 Magnum&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
http://www.ballistics101.com/454_casull.php
(great choice if recoil does not bother you, provided you hand load )
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=454 Casull&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
http://www.ballistics101.com/460_sw.php
(great choice if recoil does not bother you, provided you hand load )
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=460 SqqqW Magnum&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
http://www.ballistics101.com/480_ruger.php
(great choice if recoil does not bother you, provided you hand load )
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=480 Ruger&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
http://www.ballistics101.com/500_sw.php
(great choice if recoil does not bother you, provided you hand load )
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=500 SqqqW Magnum&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
S&W 1006 10mm
above a chart obtained by shooting factory hollow point ammo into a pressure treated rail road tie , notice how both projectile weight and velocity effect the impact energy, but, its both bullet weight and diameter and the bullet construction that matters
hard cast lead alloy bullets cast from 95% lead and 5% tin generally penetrate deeper, even the better hard cast 357 mag 170 grain bullets tend to exit the far side of hogs I've shot and a 44 mag loaded with 310 hard cast almost always will, and hard cast do expand rather consistently but its max penetration that they get thats critical.
hard cast bullets seem to produce more consistent results in my experience than factory hollow points, that can be devastating most of the time but occasionally fail to penetrate,or at times zip through without the same effect.
btw the best hunting load I've found over the decades for the 44 mag revolver
now this observation has very little to do with the handgun or caliber you decide to carry, but I find it rather amusing when I see guys state something along the lines of
"well, Id prefer a glock with 13-19 cartridge capacity over a 5-to-6 shot revolver"
yeah I can easily see that thought process, but I've actually been charged by a large very vindictive hog, one of my friends wounded..... your issue is with time and distance, and if you think your going to have the time available on a rapidly charging hog, or bear, too place your shots, precisely or have that set of teeth/tusks/claws in your sights for more than at most a couple seconds your in for a rude awakening.
yeah, you can pump out several shots a second at the range on a stationary target , but in close cover you'll be lucky to have 3-to- 5 seconds to react, and on a fast in-coming target
that's not a great deal of time.
I used to shoot bowling pin matches double action with a S&W 44 mag revolver,
(where you try to knock several bowling pins off a table against a stop watch)
I think I'm at least above average in both skill and experience, you might have more than 3-4 shot capacity but your unlikely to have the time to place even 2-3 shots.
I Use 95% WW alloy and 5% pure tin by volume
20 grains of H110 and this LEE 310 grain, or a lyman 300 grain ,cast bullet, sized .430,,seated just shy of cylinder length and crimp firmly (casting the bullets hot enough to have a slightly frosted appearance and dropping them into a 5 gallon bucket of water seems to help consistency and uniform hardness)
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/5...cf-430-diameter-310-grain-flat-nose-gas-check
notice on this penetration test that the 300 grain hard cast 44 mag at roughly 30"
http://www.handloads.com/misc/linebaugh.penetration.tests.asp?year=all
while these may not be most peoples choice in hunting handguns I can assure you that in practiced hand's
Ive found both choices are quite effective
the 44 mag silhouette with adjustable front site and 10 5/8" barrel
ranges tend to be short in florida brush
http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ing-a-handgun-for-hunting-hogs-deer-elk.1864/
http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...you-cast-and-hunt-with-bullets-you-made.6802/
http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ow-many-guys-use-a-slug-gun-for-hunting.2722/
http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...rence-in-ammo-effectiveness.14384/#post-73941
http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/need-sks-and-or-ak47-advice-7-62-x-39.5897/
http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/where-in-hell-is-my-buck.14375/
http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ounger-guy-how-to-hunt-with-a-revolver.14205/
http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/44-mag-reload-info.3409/
(LINK BELOW)
related to hog hunting
I found it very interesting, in that ,
I can partially relate ,
but I find it rather amazing,
as it seems to show mostly rather un-skilled shots,
its just not that hard to hit a close moving target after some experience,\
but I'm guessing they mostly don,t have experience,\
and yes hogs can and do attack and bite!
I've very successfully used both a 44 mag revolver and a 44 mag
loaded with a hard cast 310 grain lee bullets , over a powder charge of 21 grains of H110 powder.
that combo is very effective when the shots well placed.
its skill at placing shots and knowing hog anatomy that counts!
hogs are very common, because of the brush and palmetto thickets they seem to prefer,
in the mid florida area ranges tend to be under 50-60 yards,
making most common iron sight rifles and handguns work rather well
many guys successfully use 357 mags,with hard cast 158-180 grain bullets
10mm, 41 mag,are popular
, SKS and M1 carbines AR15 with 62-70 grain bullets
and shotguns and 30/30, and 44 mag, carbines
(and certainly not nearly as powerful as a 12 ga shotgun loaded with slugs)
most of the guys in the video seem to use shot guns,
but I'm amazed that it looks like the majority of shooters in the video can't shoot accurately,
and seem reluctant to shoot and continue shooting when the chance to place a shot or more arrives
I.ve also used a 357 mag revolver and a 10mm glock
but I can assure you while both work,
and are 100 percent lethal if you can place shots accurately,
they don,t hit as hard as the 44 mag,
(WHICH GETS THE JOB DONE VERY NICELY,)
and
while you certainly don,t need a,
480 ruger
,445 DWSM
, 454 cassul
460 S&W
,or
500 S&W revolver,
all those CALIBER choices pack even more stopping power,
so if you can handle a bigger revolver they are an option,
YOU MIGHT CARE TO LOOK AT
keep in mind that cartridges like the 445 dan wesson
(an extended length case 44 mag,) or the 454 casull and 460 S&W ( an extended length case, similar to a 45 colt)
while significantly more powerful than a standard 44 mag, are not necessarily more lethal in skilled hands, but the extra velocity allows longer effective range use.
and the DAN WESSON REVOLVERS ARE KNOWN TO BE EXCEPTIONALLY ACCURATE and BARRELS ARE EASY TO REPLACE
if you watch this linked video keep in mind hes using jacketed hollow point ammo, you can generally get significantly deeper penetration with hard cast flat nose bullets in either caliber
http://www.biggamehunt.net/articles/beginners-guide-big-game-handgun-hunting
http://www.ballistics101.com/357_magnum.php
(while certainly not a power house choice, Or something Id recommend),
in the hands of a skilled hunter I has taken about everything in north America at one time or another)
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=357 Magnum&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
http://www.ballistics101.com/10mm.php
(not bad for a compact auto pistol used for hunting and with proper hand loads certainly useful)
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=10 mm&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
http://www.ballistics101.com/41_magnum.php
(great choice if recoil bothers you, provided you hand load )
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=41 Magnum&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
http://www.ballistics101.com/44_magnum.php
(without doubt the least expensive and most effective choice for most people)
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=44 Magnum&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
http://www.ballistics101.com/454_casull.php
(great choice if recoil does not bother you, provided you hand load )
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=454 Casull&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
http://www.ballistics101.com/460_sw.php
(great choice if recoil does not bother you, provided you hand load )
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=460 SqqqW Magnum&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
http://www.ballistics101.com/480_ruger.php
(great choice if recoil does not bother you, provided you hand load )
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=480 Ruger&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
http://www.ballistics101.com/500_sw.php
(great choice if recoil does not bother you, provided you hand load )
http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=500 SqqqW Magnum&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=
S&W 1006 10mm
above a chart obtained by shooting factory hollow point ammo into a pressure treated rail road tie , notice how both projectile weight and velocity effect the impact energy, but, its both bullet weight and diameter and the bullet construction that matters
hard cast lead alloy bullets cast from 95% lead and 5% tin generally penetrate deeper, even the better hard cast 357 mag 170 grain bullets tend to exit the far side of hogs I've shot and a 44 mag loaded with 310 hard cast almost always will, and hard cast do expand rather consistently but its max penetration that they get thats critical.
hard cast bullets seem to produce more consistent results in my experience than factory hollow points, that can be devastating most of the time but occasionally fail to penetrate,or at times zip through without the same effect.
btw the best hunting load I've found over the decades for the 44 mag revolver
now this observation has very little to do with the handgun or caliber you decide to carry, but I find it rather amusing when I see guys state something along the lines of
"well, Id prefer a glock with 13-19 cartridge capacity over a 5-to-6 shot revolver"
yeah I can easily see that thought process, but I've actually been charged by a large very vindictive hog, one of my friends wounded..... your issue is with time and distance, and if you think your going to have the time available on a rapidly charging hog, or bear, too place your shots, precisely or have that set of teeth/tusks/claws in your sights for more than at most a couple seconds your in for a rude awakening.
yeah, you can pump out several shots a second at the range on a stationary target , but in close cover you'll be lucky to have 3-to- 5 seconds to react, and on a fast in-coming target
that's not a great deal of time.
I used to shoot bowling pin matches double action with a S&W 44 mag revolver,
(where you try to knock several bowling pins off a table against a stop watch)
I think I'm at least above average in both skill and experience, you might have more than 3-4 shot capacity but your unlikely to have the time to place even 2-3 shots.
I Use 95% WW alloy and 5% pure tin by volume
20 grains of H110 and this LEE 310 grain, or a lyman 300 grain ,cast bullet, sized .430,,seated just shy of cylinder length and crimp firmly (casting the bullets hot enough to have a slightly frosted appearance and dropping them into a 5 gallon bucket of water seems to help consistency and uniform hardness)
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/5...cf-430-diameter-310-grain-flat-nose-gas-check
notice on this penetration test that the 300 grain hard cast 44 mag at roughly 30"
http://www.handloads.com/misc/linebaugh.penetration.tests.asp?year=all
while these may not be most peoples choice in hunting handguns I can assure you that in practiced hand's
Ive found both choices are quite effective
the 44 mag silhouette with adjustable front site and 10 5/8" barrel
ranges tend to be short in florida brush
http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ing-a-handgun-for-hunting-hogs-deer-elk.1864/
http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...you-cast-and-hunt-with-bullets-you-made.6802/
http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ow-many-guys-use-a-slug-gun-for-hunting.2722/
http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...rence-in-ammo-effectiveness.14384/#post-73941
http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/need-sks-and-or-ak47-advice-7-62-x-39.5897/
http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/where-in-hell-is-my-buck.14375/
http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ounger-guy-how-to-hunt-with-a-revolver.14205/
http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/44-mag-reload-info.3409/
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