texas considers open carry

grumpyvette

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/12 ... -handguns/

http://www.texasgunlaws.org/texas-open-carry.htm

Ive got rather mixed feelings , on the one hand I don,t see any need for or reason too carry openly ,but I also don,t want it to be criminalized, as that could also be used or badly abused by law enforcement.
I don,t think most people see a need to carry openly, very often, and yes I can see it making a few folks a bit uncomfortable.
I know that If I walked into a mall, or restaurant and saw some guy with a 45 pistol openly displayed on his hip, who was not easily identified as a L.E.O., I,d be inclined too watching him.
but keep in mind I and almost all the adult males I know have habitually and almost constantly carried concealed, or have always had ready access to firearms at home or where they work withing fairly easy access for decades.
its not guns that may make you feel uncomfortable, its the fact that you don,t know the intentions of a stranger whose obviously armed.
most of us ASSUME we can trust those in uniform (COPS etc.) who are carrying openly but its just our long familiarity with seeing them not be a threat in most cases.
most people FEAR CHANGE.

HERES FLORIDA LAW
http://www.open-carry.org/index.php/law

790.053 Open carrying of weapons.—

(1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It is not a violation of this section for a person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1), and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.
(2) A person may openly carry, for purposes of lawful self-defense:
(a) A self-defense chemical spray.
(b) A nonlethal stun gun or dart-firing stun gun or other nonlethal electric weapon or device that is designed solely for defensive purposes.
(3) Any person violating this section commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.


ID POINT OUT THAT WHILE ITS LEGAL HERE
FEW of us carry openly, as the laws designed to protect you if the weapons seen but its not designed for constant obvious open exposure

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Vette_Newb said:
I think he meant that if you carry on your belt and it accidental shows, your still legal.



BINGO!, sorry for the less than obvious explanation

they can,t arrest you for accidentally or briefly allowing a CONCEALED CARRY firearm too show , but the CURRENT FLORIDA law is designed to strongly promote concealed carry in public which I feel is the reasonable middle ground as it protects you from prosecution if your caught exposing your weapon but its obvious they want it kept concealed
 
i genuinely do not see what peoples fascination is with open carry...

1, you look like a douche bag

2, when criminals are casing a place before they whip out their bad intentions, they going to neutralize you first.

3, it genuinely makes people feel uncomfortable, i mean all people, some guy with who knows what level of gun competency and who knows what intentions basically brandishing a firearm 24/7 makes me uneasy.
 
philly said:
i genuinely do not see what peoples fascination is with open carry...

1, you look like a douche bag

2, when criminals are casing a place before they whip out their bad intentions, they going to neutralize you first.

3, it genuinely makes people feel uncomfortable, i mean all people, some guy with who knows what level of gun competency and who knows what intentions basically brandishing a firearm 24/7 makes me uneasy.

yeah! I,m really fine with the concept of concealed carry , by at least a good many responsible adults, but probably not most adults ,now don,t think that means I want the right restricted, I just think that a reasonable bit of familiarity with the law , you learning how to use your fire arm, and your individual responsibility should be part of the process, if your willing to spend a bit of time reading up on the laws and practicing safe firearm handling and understand your limitations and restrictions on use your generally not going to be a problem but an asset to reducing crime, the statistics support that, its the very few jerks that want to look "TOUGH" or play at being a cowboy that tend to cause open carry to be an issue with most people I talk too.

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/09/mu ... ims-study/



http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry ... _maps.html

http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry ... _maps.html
 
whenever i saw guys open carrying i always mumbled that line from full metal jacket "is that you john wayne? is it me?" hahaha cowboy is right
 
Open carry in Texas began not with a bang, but a whimper.
as always the political left was screaming about blood knee deep in the streets but most sane people just carry on, with no concern and a sigh of relief,
that if they choose to carry they won,t be hassled,
by the one in a thousand knee jerk rent-a-cops

The new, and somewhat controversial law allowing licensed gun owners to carry their firearms openly in public took effect Jan. 1. Predictions that the law would cause panic or even put the public in danger have, so far, proven to be off-target.
“We do not have anything interesting to report,” Cpl. Tracey Knight of the Fort Worth Police Department said to a local newspaper, the Star-Telegram. “Two calls so far, no issues. We have no concerns and we have had no problems.”

Critics believed a public unaccustomed to seeing guns carried openly would call police out of fear. But no such complaints were filed in January in Tarrant County, where Fort Worth is the county seat.

“I said before this became law that I thought it was going to be much ado about nothing but I didn’t know it was going to be this much nothing,” Tarrant Sheriff Dee Anderson told the Star-Telegram.

Other counties in the Lone Star State have reported few, if any, complaints related to the law in the first month of 2016.

In Bastrop County, despite anticipation that there would be a flood of 911 calls, none were logged the first weekend that the law went into effect.

Contrary to widespread perception, Texas' gun laws have long been among the strictest in the nation. Carrying handguns was first restricted by local legislature in 1871. In 1995, the law was changed to allow for concealed carry permits. The new, open-carry law was passed last year.

According to figures from the Texas Department of Public Safety, only 3.4 percent of the state’s 27 million residents have any sort of license to carry a firearm. While the new law allows licensed owners to openly display their weapons, it also allows private businesses to implement their own bans.

Many privately owned businesses across the state have implemented their own ban in the New Year as well as national chains, including Starbucks, Jack in The Box, and Chipotle. As required by law, the businesses must post separate signs for their bans on both open and concealed carry.

Other businesses see no issue and will allow customers to open carry, including The Home Depot and Bass Pro Shops.

Law enforcement authorities are not enthusiastic about the law. A recent survey by the Texas Police Chief’s Association found that 75 per cent of police chiefs in the state oppose the law. But those polled also agreed overwhelmingly that licenses should be required and that handguns should be holstered. Texas is among 15 states that require a permit.

“We have concerns,” James McLaughlin, executive director of the police chiefs association, said to the Dallas Morning News. “And hopefully some of those concerns can be addressed.”
 
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