ok youve shreaded your 10 bolt rear?

Only A Ford 8.8" , Dana 60, & Pontiac 9.3 is made from Ultra pure Top Tier Made in The USA Nodular Iron stock Phil.
All others are cheap Grey iron or Tinker Toy Aluminum.
 
87vette81big said:
Only A Ford 8.8" , Dana 60, & Pontiac 9.3 is made from Ultra pure Top Tier Made in The USA Nodular Iron stock Phil.
All others are cheap Grey iron or Tinker Toy Aluminum.

i believe that... but i still say the turbo power is applied much differently than the na big block tire frying stuff some of us are used to... and an automatic gbody in "bolt on" upgrade form dont need no dana 60... hell im not sure if the g body could support that behemoth between the tires without flexing! honestly i stick to the idea that anything but a seriously heavy muscle car of the era can get by with an 8.8 ford. as much as chevy guys are rolling over in their graves for me saying it, they are cheap compared to the other options, they are more common than all the other rear end options combined, with 31 or 35 spline axles and the right carrier and tubes modified they can withstand some serious abuse, and they are MUCH MUCH LIGHTER than a damn dana 60, or a 9.3, or a 9 inch, or a 12 bolt.
 
87vette81big said:
Your Wrong. I don't need to look into.
I have Built or Rebuilt almost 300 differentials in the last 26 years.
I set up a 1976 Pontiac Grand Prix with 3.70 Richmond Gears in the 8-1/2" Rear.
Bolt in Bearing Retainer axle shafts Stock.
Also used Custom Made Mark Wiliams Race Axle shafts.
Have been to dragstrips at least 1,000 times.
I'll post pix when I disassemble the one I have. I pulled the drums, the bearings/axles are bolt in.
 
There isn't a huge weight difference Phil.
The Truck Dodge Ram Dana 60's are heavy. 4" OD Tubes.
1/4" thick steel tubes.
500lbs them.
Not all Dana 60's made the same.
Muslecar Mopar Dana60 made lighter than puckups.
Hard to describe all without showing pictures.
Ford 8.8 kinda beefy too.
Vortech YSi Stangs leave a tad bit soft like Turbo cars.
Need Impeller spinning at 40,000-45k to make full boost power.
Pulley ratio set to get full boost at 8-9k crank rpm's.
 
TexasT said:
87vette81big said:
Your Wrong. I don't need to look into.
I have Built or Rebuilt almost 300 differentials in the last 26 years.
I set up a 1976 Pontiac Grand Prix with 3.70 Richmond Gears in the 8-1/2" Rear.
Bolt in Bearing Retainer axle shafts Stock.
Also used Custom Made Mark Wiliams Race Axle shafts.
Have been to dragstrips at least 1,000 times.
I'll post pix when I disassemble the one I have. I pulled the drums, the bearings/axles are bolt in.
Ok.
1976 GP Was mine for a few years.
A friend owns it now.
 
I'm building a 467(454 +.060" bore) at around 500HP.

My transmission is a 4speed muncie M21.

I have 2 rear ends to chose from but I don't know which one would be the best?

First one is a Fors 9" out of a 1972 mustang fastback with 3.25 of ratio.

Second one is a mopar 8" 3/4 casting #2881489 (1-3/4" large stem pinion) with 3.23 of ratio.

Both has almost same length. And I would after that buy/match some wheels and tires to go along.

Which one is the best?! Which one would be the toughest?!

Both are stock ends.

mopar875.jpg

notice the mopar ring and pinion above does NOT have both ends of the pinion gear supported in bearings like the ford pictured below that generally cost 10%-30% less, plus the FORDs slightly larger ring gears are usually marginally stronger
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Given that choice,
the ford 9" will usually have both less expensive parts,
a better selection, of replacement parts,
and its an easier differential to work on,
its marginally stronger also
so Id suggest thats an easy choice
Id doubt you could hurt a stock ford 9" if its in good condition'
even if you tried too as long as you keep it full of lube'
and only use street tires as the tires will spin long before stress levels reach critical levels
 
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When we last left The Purp, Matt LaRue and Troy Pirez Jr. of ProFab Performance were putting the finishing touches on our Chris Alston Chassisworks rollcage. This month, we were on hand to witness The Purp's rear end and suspension install, two crucial systems that are much more expensive to do twice, than to do correctly the first time. Years ago, adding a fortified rear to a fourth-gen was a real chore, so we shouldn't take for granted how many excellent choices are now on the market. From stock to aftermarket GM 12-bolts, Ford 9-inches, homebuilt 8.8 conversions, and even the new Strange S60.
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Built off of the incredibly strong Dana 60 design, a rear-end that has been taking heavy abuse since World War II, the S60 from Strange takes everything heavy-duty from the original rear and combines it with technology from the modern age. Built from a strong, nodular iron center section, the S60 (dans 60 clone) features a massive 9.75-inch ring gear, making it over 2 inches larger than a stock 7.625-inch 10-bolt and even larger than the offerings in a 12-bolt (8.875-inch) and the Ford 9-inch (at, you guessed it, 9 inches). According to Strange, "The S60 is stronger than any 12-bolt, even ours," so you know it means serious business.

But, the strength doesn't stop there. When Strange designed the S60, it made some
key changes to the case, axle tubes, and axles, which help it stand apart from the crowd. Most obvious for anyone bolting the S60 into a late model F-body is the inclusion of a beefy torque arm mount cast directly into the centersection. This alleviates having to run a bolt-on bracket, or flimsy welded piece, and gives the torque arm a solid place to transfer power. Inside the centersection you will find upgraded main caps, which are much larger than the original Dana 60 design.

The axles tubes, which measure in at 3.150 inches in diameter, are fully welded to the housing, which makes them stronger and less prone to breakage. Depending on your goals, you can order 35-spline or 40-spline axles, although we stuck with the 35-spline units, which should be plenty strong for our needs. Either way, you can option for M12x1.50-inch, 1/2-inch, or 5/8-inch studs, depending on your e.t. goals and wheel preference. We opted for the 5/8-inch studs, for increased safety and less worry down the road.
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Of course, all of this strength doesn't come without some weight, but surprisingly the S60 isn't as heavy as you would think. Compared to a similarly optioned 12-bolt, the S60 is only 25 lbs heavier and just 15 lbs more than a 9-inch. Of course, depending on your setup and goals, there may be other options that make more sense, but for where we plan on going, the S60 seemed perfect.
yeah Ive built a semi serious BBC engine for several guys that rapidly resulted in a 10 or 12 bolt differential turned into scrap in short order.

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ear-axles-and-differentials.11848/#post-73266

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ill-that-10-bolt-rear-hold-up.273/#post-68923

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ifferentials-available.1282/page-2#post-67241

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/dana-60-all-the-same.12306/page-2#post-60723


http://www.strangeengineering.net/high-performance-street/complete-rear-end-assemblies/s60.html


http://www.summitracing.com/parts/str-prsa05/overview/

https://www.chevyhardcore.com/tech-stories/drivetrain/10-bolt-chevy/

To offset some of the weight, we decided to install a couple of key tubular suspension pieces from BMR Fabrication, many of which you should already be familiar with: a tubular Panhard bar, adjustable rod-ended Lower Control Arms and BMR's tried and true Xtreme Anti-roll kit, which we tied into a set of boxed subframe connectors. To see how everything goes together, keep reading and make sure you tune in next time, as we should have The Purp back on the ground and rolling on a brand-new set of race wheels and tires.
 
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Most guys still won't go to a Dana 60 Grumpy.
Only Die Hard Drag Racers will.

Impossible to sell to the Corvette World.
Forever IRS Guys.

You never see a Road Race car with a Dana 60 either.

If you have A National Wheelie Contest to Win like Byron Illinois near me,
THE WORLD OUTLAW BYRON ILLINOIS WHEELIE CONTEST ....
EVER SINGLE RUNNER UP AND WINNER USED A DANA 60 SOLID AXLE REAR.
ALL FACTORY DANA 60 BUILT.
 
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