Predator Carburetors

grumpyvette

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these carbs looked like a really nice concept, but the lack of traditional looks of the carb leave the more conservative guys cold!
but I have gotten wildly varying reports from those using them, most guys that actually have run them loved them, most guys never bothered to test one and simply dismissed them as an ODD looking carb.
I bought two and tested them on my car back in the 1970s, they ran ok, once I got the setup on the linkage correct.
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"The Predator Carburetor
The variable venturi design of the Predator carburetor allows it to work strictly off of the air demand of the engine and meters fuel in a direct relationship to that demand. As a result, the engine is never "under" or "over" carbureted at any engine rpm or load.

In addition, with no jets to change, no leaking power valves and no internal gaskets to swell, this high performance carburetor is relatively maintenance free"

http://www.callieskustoms.com/CalliesKu ... dator.html

http://callieskustoms.com/CalliesKustoms-Predator.html

Predator
810 Cross Street
Lakewood, NJ
08701
USA

tel 732-367-8487
fax 732-367-0148

http://www.callieskustoms.com/CalliesKu ... dator.html

http://www.predatorcarb.com/home.html

http://www.predatorcarb.com/predator_manual.PDF

http://www.carburetorsandmore.com/predator_carb.htm

http://carburetorsandmore.com/predator_carb.htm

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http://www.predatorcarb.com/predator_manual.PDF


Predator with idle circuit...................6000PXI

They produce up to 930 cfm's.

For street applications of the 6000PXP, where frequent braking is a consideration, we
recommend that the fuel bowl be pointed to the rear to ensure fuel delivery under
deceleration. Owners of drag race, circle track and off-road vehicles, on the other hand,
will find that the Predator works best with the fuel bowl point forward (due to vehicle rise
upon acceleration).

For owners of the 6000PXI, proper mounting position is fuel bowl
forward.
The Predator's flow and idle capabilities make it ideal for fueling 300 to 500 cubic-inch
engines. When installed on an engine within this range the Predator will permit idle
speeds as low as 800 to 1200 rpm.

Single 4-bbl.
The installation of a Predator 6000 on any performance-oriented application will produce
a noticeable improvement in throttle response. A slotted base plate permits attachment to
any four-barrel intake manifold.
Carburetor Spacers
Due to the Predator's use of a fuel-metering block positioned over two rectangular throttle
blades, the air/fuel mixture flowing down the center tends to be richer than that on the
outer sides. To provide additional manifold volume for the mixture to homogenize, we
recommend the use of a carburetor spacer, especially on dual-plane manifold
applications. We've found that a 1" or 2" spacer works exceptionally well
Nitrous
We've found nitrous oxide to be a perfect compliment to the incredible performance
characteristics of the Predator. When a plate-type nitrous system is employed, the plate
also acts as a carburetor spacer promoting better air-fuel mixtures for maximum
horsepower.
Tunnel Ram
By combining the Predator's low-end torque characteristics with the top-end charge of a
tunnel ram, the performance enthusiast can have the best of both worlds. Add to this the
use of variable venturi carburetors and you can see why a Predator-topped tunnel ram
application can be the perfect solution for street/strip excitement.
Blower
Superchargers, whether of the 6-71, mini, or draw-thru turbocharger type, perform a dualpurpose
function. In addition to their air compressing qualities, superchargers help to
ensure complete homogenization of the air-fuel mixture,

FUEL FLOW REQUIREMENTS FOR MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE

Fuel Pump 70 GPH or 420 lbs. per hour

Fuel Regulator 6 or 7 PSI flowing (wide open throttle)

Fuel Line Tank to Pump Pump to Regulator Regulator to Carb.
1/2" I.D. hose or #8 A/N 3/8" I.D. hose or #6 A/N

Fuel Filter In-line will work but a canister high volume is best.

Multiple Carb
Set-ups
Separate pumps, lines and regulators should be used.

For large demand motors such as race boats, tractor pullers, etc., our Fuel Bowl
Extension (Part #6085) is recommended










Frequently Asked Questions

How does the Predator work?
The Predator is a variable venturi design that works off of the air demand of the motor and meters fuel accordingly. Thus, provided that you have the proper fuel metering cam for your application, you will neither be undercarbureted or overcarbureted with the Predator at any given rpm range.

What kind of carburetor is the Predator suitable to replace?
The Predator replaces four barrel carburetor applications from 600 cfm to 930 cfm.

What is the Predator fuel metering cam?
The Predator fuel metering cam is a flat piece of brass located inside the fuel bowl that is cut to a certain slope. The slope of this cam is what determines the air/fuel ratio from roughly 3000rpm and up.

How easily can the throttle linkage be installed?
The 6000 is equipped with a simple throttle arm which has two 1/4" diameter holes in it for easy adjustment and quick installation.

What are the adjustments on the Predator?
The three simple adjustments are idle mixture, idle speed, and upper rpm metering cam change.

Is there an air cleaner adapter available?
A standard 5" o.d. air cleaner adapter is included with every purchase of the Predator 6000.

Are there any vacuum hose connections on the Predator?
No, there are no vacuum hose connections on the Predator.

How tall is it?
The Predator is 5 1/4" in height from the bottom of the base to the rim of the air cleaner adapter.

How does it work with nitrous oxide, blowers, and turbos?
The Predator is an excellent application when used in conjunction with nitrous oxide, on a blower, or with a turbo charger (draw though type).

How much fuel psi is required for "all-out" maximum performance?
On a naturally aspirated motor, 6 psi at wide open throttle is required for maximum performance
 
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Grumpy i just picked one of these carbs up for my BBC swap in my C4. i got it for $75 it's been sitting for quite a few yrs so im gonna buy a rebuild kit for it. I have always loved the way they look. I will be dropping it on a old Edelbrock Torker intake my dad had in his garage for yrs. now my plan is to use the double barrel shotgun air cleaner /scoop on it. i dont know how high the iar cleaner/scoop is gonna sit i was thinking i would have to use a carb spacer so it will pop out of the hood. how much of a spacer would be too much to affect how the car runs? Maybe im wrong but i was thinking if the carb only gives the engine what it needs the spacer wouldnt affect it. am i right or wrong on this matter? i'd like to know what you think being ur the guru lol.
thanks for ur help...


Tommy
 
I would have installed one as well - I like the being different bit...

But on a blow thru + with a TV cable-sensitive 200-4R...

Hmmmm

D.
 
ironman417 said:
Grumpy i just picked one of these carbs up for my BBC swap in my C4. i got it for $75 it's been sitting for quite a few yrs so im gonna buy a rebuild kit for it. I have always loved the way they look. I will be dropping it on a old Edelbrock Torker intake my dad had in his garage for yrs. now my plan is to use the double barrel shotgun air cleaner /scoop on it. i don't know how high the air cleaner/scoop is gonna sit i was thinking i would have to use a carb spacer so it will pop out of the hood. how much of a spacer would be too much to affect how the car runs? Maybe im wrong but i was thinking if the carb only gives the engine what it needs the spacer wouldn't affect it. am i right or wrong on this matter? I'd like to know what you think being your the guru lol.
thanks for you help...


Tommy

air doesn,t like to make radical or abrupt changes in direction, or it becomes turbulent and looses some flow, gradual changes in direction and a fairly smooth surface without radical changes in the paths cross sectional area tend to work better, now if your referring to a carb spacer under the carb, a good single opening spacer of 1"-0r-2" or even two, 2" spacers stacked will usually help high rpm power as they tend to add plenum volume and smooth the transition from the carb venturie area below the carb to the intake runners in the plenum,something like this would be almost ideal, the typical 4 hole designs under a predator carb would disrupt smooth flow
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G1405-1/?rtype=10
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if your referring to an air cleaner base to the carb upper surface, 3"-4" of a transition is usually about ideal.
http://www.jegs.com/i/Mr.+Gasket/720/46/10002/-1
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read these
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viewtopic.php?f=52&t=2971&p=7799&hilit=+port+match#p7799
 
I have ran this carb on my truck for a few years. It has been the best carb I have ever had. Adjusting the carb was very simple, and it rarely needed anymore
tuning after that. Throttle response was instant ... no matter what rpm the motor was at. I'm going to miss this carb as I am switching to E85 fuel.
 
A friend has a 1979 Mustang.
It was a V6 car and dropped in an iron headed 302.
Installed a Comp Cams 290 Magnum Hydraulic .
Dual Plane intake with a Predator carb.
It actually Ran very Good !

He still has the car.
Built it while we're in College together back the year 1990.
Has not ran in a Long Time now.

Ran like a mid 13 second car on the street.
13s true street racing.
 
I found that the backfire flaps on top would always want to curl up. That really messes with the tuning because it is in essence a vacuum leak.
My solution was to purchase a piece of very lightweight leather from our local "Hobby Lobby" and trace out two new flaps. They would lay flat all season
and not curl like the original paper flaps.

All the pictures I have posted of my truck are with that Predator carb being used.
 
I found that the backfire flaps on top would always want to curl up. That really messes with the tuning because it is essence an vacuum leak.
My solution was to purchase a piece of very lightweight leather from our local "Hobby Lobby" and trace out two new flaps. They would lay flat all season
and not curl like the original paper flaps.

All the pictures I have posted of my truck are with that Predator carb being used.
The Wheel stand coming out of the Huge Mudhole is Awesome !
 
It was even more impressive standing there and watching it!
Tyler was driving my truck that day and showing off in front of a big dog truck. He made an impression that's for sure!!
 
It was even more impressive standing there and watching it!
Tyler was driving my truck that day and showing off in front of a big dog truck. He made an impression that's for sure!!

Got a link or picture of it?
 
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I think the pic is better in my "Unforgiven Project" thread in post #107

Those tires are 44" tall, and the truck was launched from a stop with the front tires Damn near buried!
 
Yes you are right... it's a testament to the man who built it!

79 yota with a 383. Nice! what did it weigh ,do you remember?

Mine is an 87 chevy with a 383 with a home made spool and 6.17 gears and it weighs around 7500lbs. lol
Engine is in the factory location too!
The 19" wide tread combine tires really did help with the dig though. :D
 
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