Rick's T- Bucket CS 144 Alternator Build

[Indycars]

I already bought and received 1/4" and 5/16" ring terminals and lugs in
both sizes. Just trying to be prepared.

Any results from the spin test?

 

[87vette81big]

I have decided to wait till Monday after work Rick.
Use a Friends Crumbles (vintage 1960's) .
alternator spin tester.
220 VAC machine with a 8 HP Capacitor start 1 phase electric drive motor.
When Dorian's tested under full load, the Crumbles worked Hard.
Takes HP to generate high amps from an alternator working 110%.
Autozone & O'Reilleys machines may fail.
Tiny 1/2 HP machine . Inaccurate test result.
Measure Current output above voltage.

 

[87vette81big]

Crumbles has a True Resistance Bridge for Load Testing. Carbon pile also.
Similar to Vintage Eddy Current Engine Dynos.
99-100% repative accuracy.
Tested Dorians for 30 Seconds Full Load.
Working it hard.

 

[Indycars]

That's fine, I want you to do what you think is best!

 

[87vette81big]

Testes Rick's T- Bucket CS144 this evening.
14.8 VDC @ 160 amps.
Ready to be shipped to him in time before X-mas.
New Alternator Plug purchased & installed for him.

 

[Indycars]

Great Xmas gift Brian !!!

Do you happen to remember what the output was around 2000 RPM rotor speed?

 

[87vette81big]

My Friend does not keep a Tidy shop as Us Rick.
Meters are hard to read.
Ran Amps shunt load up till machine started stalling. Quit at 160 amps.
Confident it will put out 100 amps at 2000 Rotor speed.
We used stock fixed stator winding.
Current performance curve starts at low rotor speeds. Peaks around 4000-4500.
The aftermarket Super higj amp CS144 Stators where you can build 400-500 amps
has a tradeoff.
Low amps at slow
rotor speeds 2000.
Working Crumble alternator tester hard tovfind today.
On my listvto find & buy for myself.

 

[DorianL]

Mmmm - I just <3 my ALT :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

 

[mathd]

ok, so if there is a power outage, let's all drive to Rick's house so he can power all of us with the t-bucket .

Also am wondering/curious, you said this coating can protect the stator/winding for heavy EMF, but do you think the other component (voltage regulator) will still work(in a nuke bomb scenario)?

 

[Indycars]

(1) My Friend does not keep a Tidy shop as Us Rick.

(2.) Ran Amps shunt load up till machine started stalling. Quit at 160 amps.

1.) Yes I noticed that right away!

2.) Does that mean it puts out more than 160 amps, but we just don't
know how much more???

 

[Indycars]

Mmmm - I just <3 my ALT :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I'm abit slow sometimes ...... I'm having trouble deciphering your code.

It looks like your are saying, "I just less than 3 my ALT", which makes no sense.

 

[Indycars]

ok, so if there is a power outage, let's all drive to Rick's house so he can power all of us with the t-bucket .

LOL, you bet, no problem! hehehe

 

[87vette81big]

(1) My Friend does not keep a Tidy shop as Us Rick.

(2.) Ran Amps shunt load up till machine started stalling. Quit at 160 amps.

1.) Yes I noticed that right away!

2.) Does that mean it puts out more than 160 amps, but we just don't
know how much more???

There are different load testing methods used Rick.
An Alternator quits charging a 12 volt car battery if voltage drops below 12.6vdc.
It may very well put out 200 + Amps @ 12.6 vdc.
Our test was 160 amps at 14.8 vdc.
Transpo Regulator used has voltage setpoint 14.8.
Linear response time of 2.5 seconds.
Machine stalling....your T-bucket CS144 Barely got warm to tpuch.
Its such an excellent design alternator.
Smaller CS 130 would have been red hot burn your hand after same test.

 

[87vette81big]

(1) My Friend does not keep a Tidy shop as Us Rick.

(2.) Ran Amps shunt load up till machine started stalling. Quit at 160 amps.

1.) Yes I noticed that right away!

2.) Does that mean it puts out more than 160 amps, but we just don't
know how much more???

There are different load testing methods used Rick.
An Alternator quits charging a 12 volt car battery if voltage drops below 12.6vdc.
It may very well put out 200 + Amps @ 12.6 vdc.
Our test was 160 amps at 14.8 vdc.
Transpo Regulator used has voltage setpoint 14.8.
Linear response time of 2.5 seconds.
Machine stalling....your T-bucket CS144 Barely got warm to tpuch.
Its such an excellent design alternator.
Smaller CS 130 would have been red hot burn your hand after same test.

 

[87vette81big]

ok, so if there is a power outage, let's all drive to Rick's house so he can power all of us with the t-bucket .

Also am wondering/curious, you said this coating can protect the stator/winding for heavy EMF, but do you think the other component (voltage regulator) will still work(in a nuke bomb scenario)?

I don't really know Mathew.
Don't want to find out.
CS 144 of Ricks has upgraded rectifier bridge with Super Duty Avalanche Diodes
Best made.

 

[87vette81big]

Santa Clause is Driving a UPS Brown Truck.
Your Christmas Present is Due Christmas Eve Rick.
Santa has your T-bucket CS144 Now.
Shipped !!

BR

 

[Indycars]

Thanks for everything Brian !

 

[Indycars]

Santa has already come today !
Thanks Brian!!!!





Brian, is that the pin that holds the brushes out during assembly?
Do I need to remove it?

 

[87vette81big]

No pin or toothpick holding carbon brushes in Rick.
That's a screw that fastens brush holder you pointed to.

The pair of twisted Red & Brown wires is your CS144 To T-bucket wiring hookup.
Thin Brown wire is Alternator turn on.
Not self exciting as you requested.

Have to get shopping Rick.
Last minute Marathon.
Check un later.

BR

 

[87vette81big]

If you accidently scratch the high temp ceramic silver paint, You can Rub it out with Never Dull Wool pad polish Rick.
Its actually ultra fine aluminum powder in a ceramic base.
I baked it hard to 700 F.
Looks better in person does it not ?

Not crap paint used.